It is my understanding that even quark spin can be aligned in a strong magnetic 
field, since a magnetic field can penetrate right through a nucleus.  It does 
not stop at the boundary by some magnetic stop sign.  Thus I would say even 
your isospin particles can be polarized in a strong magnetic field in that  
their constituent quarks would be polarized.  Somebody who has a better 
knowledge of quark spin may be able to correct this understanding.  

Bob

Bob 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 10:47 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author Andrea 
Rossi


  isospin is a product of the strong force and of the quarks inside the protons 
and neutrons. It is fixed no matter how the atoms spins. An atom might be 
induced to spin using EMF but usually that spin cannot effect the isospin of 
the nucleus. with zero isospin. Only non zero isospins are effected by RF. 


  On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> wrote:

    Two particles spinning anti-parallel equal 0 spin if they each have an 
equal spin energy.  Angular momentum is a vector quantity, not a scalar one.  

    Bob
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      From: Axil Axil 
      To: vortex-l 
      Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 10:16 PM
      Subject: Re: [Vo]:mainstream physics paper bout the Hot Cat, co-author 
Andrea Rossi


      I don't get it. 8Be has zero nuclear spin and 4He has zero nuclear spin. 
How can a nuclear reaction involving them have  huge annular momentum?


      On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 12:28 AM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        Hi Bob, 


        The possibility you've been drawing attention to, that the result of 
the decay of the [8Be]* compound nucleus into two 4He nuclei with little linear 
momentum and a great deal of angular momentum makes for an interesting thought 
experiment.  Out of curiosity, I calculated the energy that would be needed to 
break up an alpha particle into either tritium and a proton or 3He and a 
neutron, which would be the reverse of these two reactions:


            3He + n → 4He + Q (19.3 MeV)
            t + p → 4He + Q (20.5 MeV)


        As I understand it, this implies that angular momentum sufficient to 
produce ~ 19 MeV of centripetal force would be needed to break apart a 4He into 
either 3He and a neutron or tritium and a proton.  This suggests that a 4He can 
carry a large amount of angular momentum before it is likely to break apart. (I 
assume the process is probabilistic and that the force needed lies along a 
distribution.)


        Further comments inline.


        Eric




        On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Bob Cook <[email protected]> 
wrote:


          However, I know of know reason why the light nuclei cannot have any 
spin quantum number--high or low.  Any spin quantum is available.


        Further to the thought experiment, I think we should make a clear 
distinction between two types of "spin" -- there's the actual spinning motion 
of a nucleus (e.g., 4He), and there is the spin state of the nucleus.  At 
higher rates of rotation, a heavy nucleus such as an isotope of nickel will 
reconfigure into a higher spin state, presumably through deformation.  In such 
a state a photon may be emitted, with the nucleus relaxing into a lower spin 
state.  Here my mental model is of neodymium magnets spinning around in a 
clump.  When they snap together into a lower-energy configuration, a photon is 
emitted through the movement of the magnets as they snap together.  The photon 
is emitted in a direction and carries away energy in such a way as to slow the 
angular movement of the spinning nucleus a little (by the amount of energy 
carried away by the photon).  The participants involved in such a transition 
are the nucleons, and the energy of the photon that is emitted will 
correspondingly be in the keV or MeV range, which is in the nuclear range.


        A light nucleus, such as 4He, does not have a bound excited state.  My 
understanding is that it cannot deform under high angular momentum into a 
higher energy state which will emit a photon when it relaxes.  The 4He will 
either break apart into lighter constituents under centrifugal forces or it 
will not.  But I'm guessing that the actual moment-to-moment velocity of the 
4He about its axis of motion is in principle a continuous quantity.  If this is 
true, perhaps the energy could be released to the environment in small amounts.


        Where the thought experiment gets interesting is in the supposition 
that you and others have already offered in this thread, that charged body such 
as a 4He nucleus that is spinning at an incredible rate will set up a magnetic 
field.  This magnetic field could disturb nearby electrons, causing them to 
emit lower energy photons in the process.


        Although I do not see anything special in the 7Li+p to 8Be transition 
that has been proposed (and note Jones's point about the gamma that would be 
omitted in the process), I think the more general notion of the energy of a 
nuclear transition somehow being deposited in angular momentum and then 
released in small amounts is a very interesting one.





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