Yes – I agree with you both that it would take considerable extra effort to 
plate lithium and that it would not be “co-deposition” if it had to be done in 
a separate step.

 

I have seen an automatic plating jig where a workpiece was repeatedly moved 
around in a circular rotation to different tanks containing different 
electrolytes- and washed in between so that many thin layer could be built up 
over time. That would require much more engineering than co-deposition. 

 

Many of these things would probably have been tried 20 years ago if the funds 
had been available. Shame on that sad cadre of luddites that effectively 
quashed this technology back then - through starvation of funding.

 

From: Bob Higgins 

 

Ed Storms once told me that in Pd-D systems using an LiOD salt for the 
electrolyte, the Li did not deposit at all on the Pd - implying that it 
remained completely in the electrolyte.  I am not sure in co-dep if any Li 
would end up being trapped in the plated layers.

 

As I mentioned before, Piantelli uses the Li as a nearby nuclear reactant for 
the high energy protons produced in the Ni-H reaction to amplify the excess 
heat.  Perhaps there are some high energy protons [or other particles]  
produced in Pd-D reaction at the surface that can react with the Li in the 
electrolyte in contact with the Pd cathode, amplifying the overall excess heat.

 

I agree that the presence of Li in systems producing excess heat is a 
noticeable coincidence.  How it is implicated at a Pd cathode is a mystery.

 

Bob Higgins

 

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 3:56 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:20:39 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>The maddening realization for all of us could be that lithium would have 
>plated out on the cathode as well – but this was never mentioned or considered.

Perhaps to some extent, however there is a 3 eV difference in the first
ionization energy of Pd and Li, with Pd much "hungrier" for electrons than Li,
so when it comes to plating, Pd would be strongly favoured.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

 

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