Creating a guaranteed non-LENR electrolytic cell for comparison may be harder than it seems. I think Pd would fundamentally be noisy because it is being loaded with H or D and is constantly leaking it back out in surface bubbles. Compare that to Pt that may not load at all and even if there is no LENR in both cases, the Pd may have more bubble noise. I think the interesting thing would be to monitor the bubble noise almost like it was excess heat. Look for sudden transitions where the bubble noise suddenly goes up unexpectedly. That could be a sign of the onset of LENR producing particles that rapidly stimulate bubble formation. You should see bubble noise going up with loading ratio, and then with the onset of LENR, a sudden increase in bubble noise.
In Sonoluminescence, one of the thing you can do is use a separate transducer to monitor the sonobubble acoustically and adjust your drive for a particular sonobubble scattering signature. You probably could also use the same kind of piezo sensor for the electrolytic LENR cell because the sensor is epoxied to the glass on the outside. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: > How do we create a dummy for comparison to get a baseline of the RF > production without LENR in progress? > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Years ago when I built a sonoluminescence apparatus and was investigating >> its properties, I read of some systems that used alpha particles and >> neutrons to stimulate bubbles which would migrate to the acoustic field >> center. So, generally, alpha, neutrons, and protons may stimulate a bubble >> in water. Bubble Tech uses this property to stimulate a persistent bubble >> in a different fluid for neutron detection. In an electrolytic cell, >> whenever a bubble forms it briefly changes the resistance of the cell, but >> because bubbles can form so rapidly, it can appear as a step change in >> resistance. Since the bubbles form at random, it creates noise in the cell >> resistance. When LENR occurs, the emitted charged particles cause rapid >> bubble formation and hence an increase in the bubble noise in the cell >> resistance. This bubble noise will show up as a broadband spectrum in the >> voltage across the cells - becoming a conducted RF. Local propagating RF >> radiation can also occur from the step change in the current flow paths as >> the current restructures to flow around the bubble. This is not surprising. >> >> As Terry asks, what is the spectrum? If the spectrum is broadband, the >> cause is probably this bubble noise. If there are narrow bandwidth >> spectral components, that would be more interesting. >> >> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:27 PM, Terry Blanton <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Many experimenters are reporting RF as output of there experiments. >>>> Could this RF interfere with proper reactor control? >>>> >>> >>> This is the key to the nature of the reaction. Do we have a spectral >>> analysis of the emissions? >>> >> >> >
