Jones--

You indicated that ferromagnetic nickel is better for induction devices—i.e., 
in the part which is heated.  Why?

It’s the driving (variable) magnetic field that induces eddy currents in the 
heated parts (per some of the conversation heretofore in this thread)  that is 
important.

It would seem that a good conductor with the right resistance would be what 
matters most.  The hysteresis of ferromagnetic  materials would seem to make no 
difference in a varying magnetic field, unless the local B fields in the heated 
material affects the transfer of energy other than by the resistance heating of 
electrons in an eddy current.   The time constant of  the heated   for response 
to a changing magnetic field may be a key parameter.

Bob Cook

From: Jones Beene 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:06 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: RE: [Vo]:The good, the bad and the ugly

From: Daniel Rocha 

 

Ø  Why not heating it with magnetic induction? 

 

 

Induction makes sense – at least for the entry level experiment, based on these 
considerations

 

1)      Cost – 1500 watt microwave oven costs $150 – whereas 1800 watt 
induction cooktop is $75

2)      Efficiency – microwave is nominally 75% efficient and cooktop is 84% 
efficient

3)      Ease of access - microwave has door that must remain closed and cooktop 
is open

4)      Coupling of energy – this is the big unknown. Microwaves couple well to 
hydrogen due to the 21 cm resonance line. Induction couples well to nickel as 
it is ferromagnetic.

 

In either case, using a kitchen appliance for a power source is not practical 
if one is convinced that temperature of 1200 C is needed. 

 

There is plenty of evidence, going back to the early nineties (Thermacore) that 
high heat is not required, and decent thermal gain in Ni-H will be seen below 
the Curie point of nickel – so long as the power source remains efficient.

 

 

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