It is quite easy to produce orbital shapes that do not radiate.  All that is 
required is for the charge to be evenly distributed instead of localized, like 
a planet around the sun.  Spheres are not necessary at all and even a single 
smooth loop of  electron charge rotating around a nucleus will not radiate.   
The loop does not need to be circular to meet that simple requirement.

It amazes me that so much emphasis is placed upon the non radiation factor 
since there are an infinite number of ways to achieve it.  One issue that is 
important is that the charge distribution must be smooth and not quantized into 
small segments.  If you attempt to break the smooth charge into individual 
small spaced out portions then some radiation will escape.  You can visualize 
the non radiating source as being a balanced null of the individual radiating 
fields emitted by an infinite number of infinitesimal charges.

Another way to ensure the balance is to force the charge distribution to remain 
constant when viewed from any far external location.   This means that you can 
not allow charge to accumulate or dissipate with time at any location assumed 
for the orbit sphere.  This is merely another way of saying that the charge 
currents must be smooth, constant, and continuous at every point.

It should be understood that a steady magnetic field can readily be produced by 
a charge distribution of the sort that I am describing even though no far field 
radiation is emitted.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, Oct 11, 2015 4:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Cross section reduction at lower energies



> If I understand this, it appears to be the orbitsphere with differential 
> charge density across the surface of the sphere.  I have seen a few diagrams 
> in Blacklight's promotional literature to this effect.  It appears to be an 
> ad hoc 
> modification to account for something that was lost when Mills set aside the 
> geometric form of spherical harmonics and went with a sphere.
No it is not arbritary. It is a simple matter to prove that these charge 
distribution would lead to non radiation for certain internal standing waves. 
Mills derivation is overly complex
just use the expansion of exp(i k x) in sperical harmonics and the 
orthogonality of the spherical harmonics. You will then see that essentially 
these are the only valid
charge distribution that allow a standing em wave that will not radiate for 
certain combination of w and r.


> I don't take issue QM.  I take issue with orbitspheres.  You are a proponent 
> of Mills's theory, and you are using spherical harmonics.  I'm trying to 
> better understand this situation.

Ok, try read:
c-lambda.se/maxwell.pdf


You will see that spherical harmonics is natural and also it is actually used 
all over the places in GUTCP, e.g. for calculation
of atoms with higher order shells.


> In addition to the idea that you are seeking feedback on (which I don't weigh 
> in on here), an important question is whether Mills's theory is 
> self-consistent and consistent with the experimental evidence.  I'm trying to 
> probe this 
> somewhat unrelated question.  Discussion threads on Vortex are allowed to go 
> all over the place.

Ok, I validated that non radiaiton is correct and that the ionisation energies 
for hydrogen and one electorn atoms are correct if you don't count
the mass correction which really looks like hokus pokus and the derivation 
don't add up in GUTCP.


I find that GUTCP a bit too creative many times but it's creative, there are 
strange argument but the conclusions seam to bare
truth if you work hard and explain it too yourself sidesteping what Mills is 
saying. Actually sometimes I tend to get a feeling that 
the whole thing is obfuscated.


Regards
Stefan











On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote:


On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 3:59 AM, Stefan Israelsson Tampe 
<[email protected]> wrote:



Now really what you have in Mills is Re(Ylm(e)exp(iwt) but that means that this 
photon field inside
the orbitsphere is a standing wave.



If I understand this, it appears to be the orbitsphere with differential charge 
density across the surface of the sphere.  I have seen a few diagrams in 
Blacklight's promotional literature to this effect.  It appears to be an ad hoc 
modification to account for something that was lost when Mills set aside the 
geometric form of spherical harmonics and went with a sphere.



The nucleus is a more complex setup of EM + boundary conditions. Not sure that 
you could rule out 

a spherical wave.



Yes.  Nuclei can have spherical waves (s-waves), and many other kinds of waves 
(p, d, etc.).



Also forget Mills, use QM if you don't like it.



I don't take issue QM.  I take issue with orbitspheres.  You are a proponent of 
Mills's theory, and you are using spherical harmonics.  I'm trying to better 
understand this situation.



Smell it and tell me what you don't like or like about it - the mills versus 
QM, is really of less importance here



In addition to the idea that you are seeking feedback on (which I don't weigh 
in on here), an important question is whether Mills's theory is self-consistent 
and consistent with the experimental evidence.  I'm trying to probe this 
somewhat unrelated question.  Discussion threads on Vortex are allowed to go 
all over the place.


Eric







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