Axil, I am on your side man On Friday, October 23, 2015, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Also see: > > > https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn19508-hawking-radiation-glimpsed-in-artificial-black-hole/ > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','janap...@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> See >> >> https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevLett.114.036402 >> >> http://www.nature.com/news/hawking-radiation-mimicked-in-the-lab-1.16131 >> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','janap...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >>> No, this analog light based black hole referenced in that video produces >>> hawking radiation. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 5:09 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dlrober...@aol.com');>> wrote: >>> >>>> I believe you are referring to a simulation of a black hole. >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','janap...@gmail.com');>> >>>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');>> >>>> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 5:00 pm >>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI >>>> >>>> The rotation of polaritons in a vortex produces a ANALOG black hole. >>>> Any wave structure in a vortex will produce a black hole even water. >>>> >>>> See >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyMYcqxuZ_I >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:55 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dlrober...@aol.com');>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> But SPP's can be coaxed into generating enormous magnetic fields. It >>>>> is not too difficult to understand that these super fields can interact >>>>> strongly with nucleons. Is there reason to believe that magnetic >>>>> interaction by SPP's is not going to be adequate? The multiparticle >>>>> entanglement theory is not proven to be required for LENR. >>>>> >>>>> No one has ever captured a small black hole and lived to tell about >>>>> it! :-) >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','janap...@gmail.com');>> >>>>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');>> >>>>> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 4:47 pm >>>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI >>>>> >>>>> One of the tell tail indications that a black hole is involved is the >>>>> cluster fusion mode in LENR reaction. This requires multiparticle >>>>> entanglement. Only black holes produce this sort of entanglement(see >>>>> ER=ERP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ER%3DEPR). Standard QM >>>>> entanglement is monogamous. Only two particles can be entangled. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:38 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com >>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dlrober...@aol.com');>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> SPP's are one thing, small black holes another. Why is there any >>>>>> reason to believe that a black hole is required to initiate LENR >>>>>> reactions? I suspect that SPP's can do the job without extra help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','janap...@gmail.com');>> >>>>>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');>> >>>>>> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 12:15 pm >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI >>>>>> >>>>>> During a typical replication run of the Rossi effect, the pressure of >>>>>> the hydrogen gas goes down over a relatively short timeframe. This might >>>>>> mean that hydrogen Rydberg matter(HRM) has formed in major part because >>>>>> gas >>>>>> is transformed into a solid. But the reaction does not take off >>>>>> immediately. It might be that the energy needed for the HRM to produce >>>>>> heavy SPP solitons need more time to accumulate. The Rossi reaction may >>>>>> be >>>>>> a two step process that first forms rydberg matter, then that HRM >>>>>> accumulates energy in SPPs to form the real cause of LENR: SPP black >>>>>> holes. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com >>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','janap...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why does it take so long for the Holmlid effect to manifest? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you have to pump energy into a population of black holes that >>>>>>> stores huge amounts of energy, it take time and a lot of EMF power to do >>>>>>> this. But once these solitons are well formed and their power storage >>>>>>> threshold is reached, they become exquisitely responsive to any >>>>>>> additional >>>>>>> energy input. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the reason why the Rossi replicators cannot get a quick >>>>>>> response. They don't keep at it for long enough. Rossi must cook his >>>>>>> fuel >>>>>>> for a long time to deposit enough energy into those solitons for them to >>>>>>> become active. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I believe that application of just heat and laser light is not >>>>>>> powerful enough EMF stimulation to fill up the energy bucket to the >>>>>>> proper >>>>>>> level. An electric arc might be the best way to pump power into the >>>>>>> solitons. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The lessen to take away, use an electric arc to preprocess your >>>>>>> fuel. It will save a lot of time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','eric.wal...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Bob Higgins < >>>>>>>> rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone else find these just too incredible to believe? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very much so. I should spend some time looking at the raw data. >>>>>>>> Holmlid may have something interesting. His interpretation may have >>>>>>>> sufficiently alienated the people who could help him interpret his >>>>>>>> results >>>>>>>> that he may be a little in a bind. Energy conservation considerations >>>>>>>> point to a misinterpretation of some kind on his part. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> While these things truly offend my physical sensibilities, having >>>>>>>>> these nervous concerns also makes me worry that I am becoming a >>>>>>>>> patho-skeptic. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not at all. What is important is to not write off raw experimental >>>>>>>> data. Explanations of the data are always fair game. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eric >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
