I believe you are referring to a simulation of a black hole. Dave
-----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 5:00 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI The rotation of polaritons in a vortex produces a ANALOG black hole. Any wave structure in a vortex will produce a black hole even water. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyMYcqxuZ_I On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:55 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: But SPP's can be coaxed into generating enormous magnetic fields. It is not too difficult to understand that these super fields can interact strongly with nucleons. Is there reason to believe that magnetic interaction by SPP's is not going to be adequate? The multiparticle entanglement theory is not proven to be required for LENR. No one has ever captured a small black hole and lived to tell about it! :-) Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 4:47 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI One of the tell tail indications that a black hole is involved is the cluster fusion mode in LENR reaction. This requires multiparticle entanglement. Only black holes produce this sort of entanglement(see ER=ERP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ER%3DEPR). Standard QM entanglement is monogamous. Only two particles can be entangled. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 4:38 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: SPP's are one thing, small black holes another. Why is there any reason to believe that a black hole is required to initiate LENR reactions? I suspect that SPP's can do the job without extra help. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2015 12:15 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Colloquium at SRI During a typical replication run of the Rossi effect, the pressure of the hydrogen gas goes down over a relatively short timeframe. This might mean that hydrogen Rydberg matter(HRM) has formed in major part because gas is transformed into a solid. But the reaction does not take off immediately. It might be that the energy needed for the HRM to produce heavy SPP solitons need more time to accumulate. The Rossi reaction may be a two step process that first forms rydberg matter, then that HRM accumulates energy in SPPs to form the real cause of LENR: SPP black holes. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Axil Axil <[email protected]> wrote: Why does it take so long for the Holmlid effect to manifest? When you have to pump energy into a population of black holes that stores huge amounts of energy, it take time and a lot of EMF power to do this. But once these solitons are well formed and their power storage threshold is reached, they become exquisitely responsive to any additional energy input. This is the reason why the Rossi replicators cannot get a quick response. They don't keep at it for long enough. Rossi must cook his fuel for a long time to deposit enough energy into those solitons for them to become active. I believe that application of just heat and laser light is not powerful enough EMF stimulation to fill up the energy bucket to the proper level. An electric arc might be the best way to pump power into the solitons. The lessen to take away, use an electric arc to preprocess your fuel. It will save a lot of time. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Eric Walker <[email protected]> wrote: On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Bob Higgins <[email protected]> wrote: Does anyone else find these just too incredible to believe? Very much so. I should spend some time looking at the raw data. Holmlid may have something interesting. His interpretation may have sufficiently alienated the people who could help him interpret his results that he may be a little in a bind. Energy conservation considerations point to a misinterpretation of some kind on his part. While these things truly offend my physical sensibilities, having these nervous concerns also makes me worry that I am becoming a patho-skeptic. Not at all. What is important is to not write off raw experimental data. Explanations of the data are always fair game. Eric
