Electrical production has been done in the Papp engine. I go back to the Papp engine that was self powered by recycling overunity electrons produced by the LENR reaction.
Look at starting at 21:10 of the video below. Watch the motor driven by the feedback current gathered by the thorium filled buckets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zWJNyoFgJM On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:08 AM, David Roberson <[email protected]> wrote: > First it must be determined that nickel based systems can not generate > electricity in the same general manner. So far we have not actually seen > proof that either metal works all that well. I remain skeptical until > more evidence becomes available in support of this concept. > > I wonder what fraction of the energy release can be directly converted > into electricity? Unless it is a large proportion some form of heat > powered generator is going to be required anyway. The overall system will > have to be optimized. > > Dave > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Axil Axil <[email protected]> > To: vortex-l <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2015 11:28 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter? > > The cost is cheap if the reactor can produce electricity directly. > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 11:21 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The counts for elements of that m value appear quite small when compared >> to the other elements. Also, why on earth would anyone use such an >> expensive element if a dirt cheap one can substitute? My suspicion is that >> this is a dead end idea if production costs are taken into consideration. >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Eric Walker <[email protected]> >> To: vortex-l <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2015 10:27 pm >> Subject: Re: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter? >> >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 7:34 PM, David Roberson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Rossi has never mentioned palladium use within his reactors Axil. That >>> is your thought as far as I am aware. >>> >> >> I don't know whether Rossi is now using or has used palladium in the >> past. But one detail in the Lugano report that only became apparent to me >> much later was that there appears to have been a number of heavy elements >> in one of the fuel assays in Appendix 3 (see the lower graph, outlined in >> red). >> >> http://i.imgur.com/7RQon11.png >> >> Some of these heavier masses were likely to have been compound ions. But >> it's seems unlikely that 100 percent of them were. Note that palladium >> overlaps with m=105. Even if palladium were not present, I would not be >> surprised if one or more heavier elements were. >> >> I do not know why this was the only instance in which a graph for m>100 >> was shown in the appendix. >> >> Eric >> >> >> >
