In the Co-deposition video, the narrator says that the reaction sets in
withing minutes for the start of Co-deposition even though the current is
at very low power levels maintained at Co-deposition initialization.

During Co-deposition initiation no hydrogen is deposited until three atomic
levels of palladium are transferred to the copper substrate.

This means that the palladium chloride envelope is the active LENR factor
and not the hydrogen deposited on the electrode.

As Rossi has done on the E-Cat X, palladium powder used in a pure hydrogen
envelope WITHOUT oxygen is effective as a LENR reaction mechanism.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Roarty, Francis X <
francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote:

> Axil, Jones,
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>             Good insights and dot connecting, would it apply to Patterson
> beads submerged in water with a lithium sulfate (Li2SO4) electrolyte
> solution? (Li2SO4)  vs palladium chloride absorption of UV?  His claim
> that it would neutralize radiation without emitting harmful radiation is
> consistent with more recent Japanese patents for remediation.
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> Fran
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> *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:15 PM
> *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter?
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> As posted before, water absorbs UV light about 100,000,000 times better
> than infrared light. This makes it a poor partner with any noble metal at
> producing polaritons at UV frequencies.
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> However, when chlorine is added to the palladium solution to form  palladium
> chloride in the electrolyte, the absorption of UV light is greatly reduced.
> This favors polariton formation using UV light.
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> See:
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> http://www.researchgate.net/publication/229233040_Speciation_of_aqueous_palladium(II)_chloride_solutions_using_optical_spectroscopies
> adium(
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> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
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> On further examination, Ken may be on to an important insight here which
> is relevant to LENR. Here is another reference with more detail.
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> “Single-Atom Catalysts: A New Frontier in Heterogeneous Catalysis”
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> YANG, et al.
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> When read in the context of the recently mentioned Szpak interview, where
> we see the highly credible report of 3 out of 10 meltdown events, using
> only plain water but with palladium chloride in the electrolyte – this
> makes me think that the magnetic field facilitated single atom palladium to
> first densify and accumulate, and then after 3-4 days to react in bulk.
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> *From:* Ken Deboer
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> … most recently JM Thomas (Nature 17 Sept 2015) showed that single atoms,
> of Pd especially, make better catalysts than nanoparticles. super
> catalysts, in fact.
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> Now that you mention it – if you look back at Pd-D cold fusion, one of the
> most effective techniques is “co-dep” or co-deposition.
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> In co-dep, palladium chloride is in the electrolyte, which means
> essentially that individual ions of palladium are present.
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