Rossi has never mentioned palladium use within his reactors Axil.  That is your 
thought as far as I am aware.

Dave

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <[email protected]>
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Nov 19, 2015 2:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter?



In the Co-deposition video, the narrator says that the reaction sets in withing 
minutes for the start of Co-deposition even though the current is at very low 
power levels maintained at Co-deposition initialization.  


During Co-deposition initiation no hydrogen is deposited until three atomic 
levels of palladium are transferred to the copper substrate. 


This means that the palladium chloride envelope is the active LENR factor and 
not the hydrogen deposited on the electrode.


As Rossi has done on the E-Cat X, palladium powder used in a pure hydrogen 
envelope WITHOUT oxygen is effective as a LENR reaction mechanism.



On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 6:08 AM, Roarty, Francis X <[email protected]> 
wrote:


Axil, Jones,
            Good insights and dot connecting, would it apply toPatterson beads 
submerged in water with a lithium sulfate (Li2SO4) electrolyte solution? 
(Li2SO4)  vs palladium chloride absorption of UV?  His claim that it would 
neutralize radiation without emitting harmful radiation is consistent with more 
recent Japanese patents for remediation. 
Fran
 
From: Axil Axil [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 2:15 PM
To: vortex-l <[email protected]>
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]: How many atoms to make condensed matter?

 

As posted before, water absorbs UV light about 100,000,000 times better than 
infrared light. This makes it a poor partner with any noble metal at producing 
polaritons at UV frequencies. 

 

 

However, when chlorine is added to the palladium solution to form  palladium 
chloride in the electrolyte, the absorption of UV light is greatly reduced. 
This favors polariton formation using UV light.

 

See:

 

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/229233040_Speciation_of_aqueous_palladium(II)_chloride_solutions_using_optical_spectroscopiesadium(

 


 

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:


On further examination, Ken may be on to an important insight here which is 
relevant to LENR. Here is another reference with more detail.
 
“Single-Atom Catalysts: A New Frontier in Heterogeneous Catalysis”
YANG, et al.
 
When read in the context of the recently mentioned Szpak interview, where we 
see the highly credible report of 3 out of 10 meltdown events, using only plain 
water but with palladium chloride in the electrolyte – this makes me think that 
the magnetic field facilitated single atom palladium to first densify and 
accumulate, and then after 3-4 days to react in bulk.

 
From: Ken Deboer
 

… most recently JM Thomas (Nature 17 Sept 2015) showed that single atoms, of Pd 
especially, make better catalysts than nanoparticles. super catalysts, in fact.
 
 
Now that you mention it – if you look back at Pd-D cold fusion, one of the most 
effective techniques is “co-dep” or co-deposition.
 
In co-dep, palladium chloride is in the electrolyte, which means essentially 
that individual ions of palladium are present.
 
 

 




 






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