Morning Esa, Did you hear from others that they ordered or received an invoice? I got my emails from them to wait for further instructions, but heard nothing since Monday. Marcus Op 9 dec. 2015 07:06 schreef "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com>:
> Hi Marcus! Sure! > > I know at least two organizations who are going to purchase one. One is in > Australia, and another is in Finland. The Finns have a crowdfund project. > https://mesenaatti.me/en/steornin-ikiliikkujatekniikan-tutkimusprojekti/ > <- > I'm trying to get in to record the electromagnetic fields + activities of > both of the devices, the Ocube and the Ophone. I hope they'll sound juicy > enough to be made electronic music out of. > > > On 2 December 2015 at 16:14, Marcus Winckers <marcki...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey Esa, >> >> I see that you, like me, are interested in the Cube. I am planning on >> buying one later in the day if possible. My christmass present for >> myself. Shall we keep in touch and exchange thoughts and experiences? >> >> Marcus Winckers >> Utrecht >> Netherlands. >> Op 29 okt. 2015 07:38 schreef "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com>: >> >> If you guys like the internets more, the transcript is mirrored here: >>> http://freeenergy.news/steorn/steorn-o-cube-webinar-full-transcript/ >>> >>> >>> On 29 October 2015 at 02:17, Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, here's my transcript of the Orbo Steorn Webinar broadcast on the >>>> 28th October 2015. >>>> >>>> If you use any of it, please credit accordingly. >>>> the video is at http://orbo.com/ >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Pat: Welcome to the Orbo Webinar. We're here today to introduce you to >>>> the first Orbo product, the O-Cube. Orbo is a highly controversial >>>> technology ... (Shaun places the O-Cube on the table) ..and we're going to >>>> demonstrate the functionality of the O-Cube. Before we do that, however, we >>>> want to just give you a brief flavour of who we are and the journey that >>>> we've taken over the last fifteen years. >>>> --- >>>> Shaun: So, twelve and a half years ago, yeah? Tell me, how on earth, >>>> you got into this crazy company. >>>> Pat: The beginning's actually going back fourteen years ago, because, >>>> what happened was, in 2001, I was looking to evaluate a particular piece of >>>> technology, nothing to do with Steorn.. And, I didn't know how to evaluate >>>> it, and I made a number of calls, and I was put in contact with yourselves. >>>> So, I met Mike and yourself in 2001 and you looked at the proposition, the >>>> technology we're looking at, and you evaluated it and you said look, >>>> listen, this is not, you know, something to look at.. so, that was the way >>>> it was left. And, I went to meet you then in April 2004 and the purpose of >>>> that conversation was.. ahm.. >>>> Shaun: "Where's me fucking money" (laughs) >>>> Pat: Well, it wasn't, it wasn't even at that, because I knew, like, the >>>> proposition for what is.. But the point you were putting to me, was you >>>> said, "Look, we're looking for a venture capital..".. you said to me, first >>>> of all, you said to me, "I'm looking for a VC company", and what I did >>>> was.. I.. The first thing I did probably before I even looked beyond them >>>> was, I got a friend of mine who's a, you know, he's an engineer and I got >>>> him to go in and spend some time with yourself and Mike and to evaluate >>>> what it was. And.. I can remember walking out of Fumberly Court as it was >>>> on a Friday afternoon and.. the two of yous were walking along side by >>>> side.. I said "What you think?" and he just said "Can I invest?". And it >>>> was, it was kind of like that, and I said "Are you serious?" and he said, >>>> "Pat, If this is right" he said, "This is gonna to be very very serious." >>>> ---- >>>> Mike: So Shaun, looking a bit tired.. Understandable. Ten years >>>> defending your claims and yourself. Ahm, give us a little bit of background >>>> about Steorn, for a bit, new people tuning in today. >>>> Shaun: Steorn was a company that you and me founded, Mike. Back in >>>> 2000, and we started doing project management.. We were in the world of >>>> fruit, a lot of bananas. And then we started developing technology for >>>> others, as you know, that's when we developed forensic systems for >>>> companies like Microsoft and credit card companies, and we did expert >>>> witnessing, in, fraud.. >>>> Mike: (interrupts) So you get on.. >>>> Shaun: And then one day.. >>>> Mike: (interrupts) And then one day you're sitting there at your desk, >>>> magnets spinning around, and you decide: "I need an ad in the Economist". >>>> Shaun: One day we made a discovery, whatever you gonna call it, a >>>> mistake, depending on where you sit, where we went, yeah, look.. >>>> We can get more energy out of these bizarre magnetic fields than we're >>>> putting in, isn't that really cool? And wouldn't it be great to build >>>> something that uses this, put it in the market, and hopefully make a lot of >>>> money. >>>> --- >>>> Alex?: When I saw yous guys coming in, and meeting up after work, I >>>> realized that yous were doing a lot of brainstorming, and once I, you know, >>>> I didn't really know much about it, because I kept hearing the name Steorn, >>>> and I didn't really know how to pronounce it or anything like that, but I >>>> realized that yous were doing some interesting stuff, but it's been >>>> enjoyable seeing the progression over the years, and, you know, we're >>>> really, really really interested in what's going on, ahm, you know.. >>>> Shaun: And you.. You see all the lads from Steorn, outside and about, >>>> in and out of there, these lads that just (heard) about every provocation >>>> and word and insult in the world, they're called conman, scam-artist, and >>>> so on, you've seen them at their most vulnerable. Honestly what do you >>>> think of them? >>>> Alex?: I've never seen them worry, I've never seen them. I like them, >>>> genuinely like, I know yous all, right down to Max, I've played poker with >>>> so many of yous, we've shared so many late nights, and I remember telling >>>> my friends, you know, we're also in business, and I said, this guy doing >>>> mad stuff with magnets, like, you know, and yeah.. Yous are operating in, >>>> you know, this crazy environment, and, when we, you know, when we >>>> eventually -- when you actually turned around and said that we could have >>>> one of these boxes in the pub for a while, I mean, I was just cackahoop >>>> when I saw.. When I heard that, and I mean, you know, not.. Partly I was >>>> wondering what the hell it is, but the other part of it is just really >>>> really interested at being involved with something so revolutionary.. >>>> -- >>>> Shaun: Ok, Pat, so, you have hustled twenty odd million, and went to >>>> private investors around Ireland, and that started twelve years ago, yeah? >>>> In that twelve years the company has failed, and failed again, and failed >>>> again and failed again. And Pat Corbett has raised money again, raised >>>> money again and raised money again. What the fuck? >>>> Pat: (pause) Ahm, see that's that word, failure, you see. Look.. You >>>> know.. We haven't.. >>>> Shaun: Failed. Failed with the jury, failed with the London demo, >>>> failed to ever show anything convincing to anybody, failed to put a product >>>> in the market. Twelve years of failure, Pat's driving around the country, >>>> taking money from people. >>>> Pat: Yeah, as it was, if you look at it like that, if you're looking at >>>> it from the outside in, Shaun, that's that's, that's what it is, it's >>>> failure, you know. People, you know, and.. And right now, you know (what) I >>>> mean, and over the years, there is that, there's a huge level of fear and >>>> nervousness among the shareholders. >>>> Shaun: How does Pat know, Corbett know that it'll work? >>>> Pat: (pause) Pat Corbett has always known that it works. >>>> Shaun: (interrupts) No no, how does Pat Corbett know that the Powercube >>>> will work? >>>> Pat: (pause) The only reason Pat can say based on.. >>>> Shaun: (interrupts) a great pause, that's - fucking aye, that was the >>>> money shot.. go-on (laughs) >>>> Pat: The only way Pat.. Pat has had one of the, one of the original >>>> Powercubes that he had basically going around in his car for a month.. >>>> Shaun: Okay. >>>> Pat: Now, that worked for a month, that shouldn't happen. That did work. >>>> Shaun: Okay. >>>> Pat: So, like, in other words, all I can do, Shaun, is, as, all I can >>>> do, is say, alright, give the benefit of my knowledge and experience. I'm >>>> not a scientist, I'm never, like, I'm not an engineer. >>>> Shaun: For twenty odd million, yeah, where's it gone? >>>> Pat: The money has gone, in.. it's twelve years, so, like if you said, >>>> to run a business over twelve years, you know, that cost money, like we've >>>> spent a lot of money on equipment, we've spent a lot of money on papers, >>>> we've spent a lot of money on staff. >>>> -- >>>> Shaun: Let's say it all falls flat on it's face. If technology works, >>>> doesn't work, the whole thing goes wallop. Yeah? >>>> Pat: Yeah. >>>> Shaun: K? Where's Pat Corbett - where's Pat Corbett when he looks at >>>> his fucking two kids and his wife, and he goes, "I just wasted twelve years >>>> of my life, destroyed my reputation".. Where's Pat then? >>>> Pat: Ahm. It's not something I've actually thought about.. >>>> Shaun: (interrupts) I'm asking you though. >>>> Pat: Yeah. The most important thing in my life is how my wife looks at >>>> me and how my two kids look at me. >>>> Shaun: Yep. >>>> Pat: That's it. >>>> Shaun: And if this goes tits up? >>>> Pat: Ahm.. (prolonged pause) The reason I feel like this.. >>>> Shaun: (interrupts) Leave it.. No, don't.. >>>> Pat: (interrupts) No, no, this is relevant.. We're not leaving it. >>>> (pause) That emotion (pause) is to do with my wife and my kids. >>>> Shaun: Yep. >>>> Pat: It's nothing to do with this gone tits up. Ok? So. (inhales) Let >>>> me clarify that. Ok? Now. I can't tell you in a way that you will >>>> understand that I know this thing is not going to go belly up. I can't tell >>>> anybody, like, look, if somebody's looking at this, and they're saying, >>>> right. I'm just a person on the other end of the screen. And.. To sound >>>> like anything, you know, if you say somebody'll see this thing about you >>>> know, saying something, When you look, you know, and like.. All they're >>>> saying about everybody is that, the Henry Ford, Henry Ford said, you know I >>>> want the v8, they said, can't be done. Steorn, you know, creating a battery >>>> to recharge itself, can't be done. Okay? So, that's what people's.. But >>>> actually, I know, and that's what it is, Shaun, I know. And the very thing >>>> about all of the years, and let's forget about Shaun McCarthy for a second, >>>> and forget Mike Daily for a second. In all the years that basically I've >>>> been with Steorn, every single scientist or technologist that came in, into >>>> us, the first thing, what do I do? I build a relationship with them. That's >>>> it. You remember, d'you know, what you call it, two boys came in, >>>> represented the company from the Middle East, let's say, they came in, and >>>> they said, "But this works!" Well, of course it does, what did you think >>>> we'd do? Bring yous across for the day off, d'you know what I mean? So the >>>> thing about it, Shaun, is.. There's a question here, does it work? Yes it >>>> does work, you know. I think the real question is: can we turn this into >>>> something? >>>> Shaun: Yeah. >>>> Pat: That's the real question. But.. From the point of view of.. >>>> Shaun: (interrupts) D'you ever quit? D'you ever give up on this. >>>> Pat: No, I won't. Because.. >>>> Shaun: (interrupts) Is there more fight left in you.. Twelve fucking >>>> years is a long time, any more fight left in Pat Corbett? >>>> Pat: Listen, my fight hasn't begun yet. I haven't started yet. Because >>>> this is not.. We've, we haven't had to fight (yet), we've only had to get >>>> over the first hurdle. This'll be the first hurdle. Look man, the fight >>>> hasn't started yet, when the fight does.. that's why.. As I'm saying to >>>> you, it hasn't begun yet. >>>> --- >>>> ?: I believe you had a t-shirt before, posted before, went something >>>> like CEO vs COE. >>>> Shaun: Mm-hmm. >>>> ?: Ahm, I think the score at the moment is 5-0 in favour of COE. D'you >>>> believe the CEO's going to win out this time? >>>> Shaun: I'm a Birminham fan. A 5-1 result is.. >>>> ?: So you're used to losing. >>>> Shaun: 5-1 result is considered a win. No. I, the truth of it is, yeah, >>>> in the promoting something that blatantly looks like horse-shit, is that >>>> you're going to get kicked around a lot. But, here's the other side of that >>>> coin: You only have to win once. And, yeah, well we've had obvious public >>>> failures and we've had obvious public disinterest in some of the stuff that >>>> we've done. I only have to win once. I can lose a hundred times, and win >>>> once. When I win once, we win. >>>> --- >>>> Shaun: Ok, so what we're going to do now is discuss the actual product >>>> itself, this is what we call the O-Cube The O-Cube is a very simple device, >>>> it's a power-brick or a power-cube that has one single USB output. USB >>>> output is 2.1Amps, so it can charge tablets as well as smart-phones and >>>> other devices. In terms of the components inside, there's really only three >>>> things. There's a standard USB PCB interface electronics, there's a >>>> Lithium-Ion battery and then there's the Orbo powerpack. >>>> Shaun: And how it actually works is very very simple. When you plug a >>>> device into this, what you're doing is draining the energy in the >>>> Lithium-Ion battery. But the Orbo device, the Orbo device is constantly >>>> powering the battery, so there can be situations where you draw and >>>> completely drain the Lithium-Ion battery, but what will happen is that over >>>> time, that the Orbo device itself will recharge the battery. >>>> In terms of power output, you're looking at approximately two full >>>> smart-phone charges in the 24 hour period. (The O-Girl appears) Pat now >>>> will discuss the sales buys and terms of conditions, thank you O-Girl. >>>> Pat: The O-Cube goes on sale in December and is available only from >>>> Steorn. The cost price of this unit is 1200 euros, we're also offering a 12 >>>> month warranty return to base. >>>> Shaun: Ok, so, the way that we're demonstrating function here is that >>>> we're giving out the O-Cube to a variety of different people, and they will >>>> be reporting back on their day-to-day use of it, at each of the subsequent >>>> webinars. Pat, maybe you can tell us a couple of the people who are getting >>>> it, and obviously there'll be more, and, as the process goes on. >>>> Pat: Ok, the first of these companies is a company we've been working >>>> with for the last couple of months, a company called Rabbithole Promotions. >>>> This company works in the area of guerrilla marketing, and, (they're) very >>>> edgy in their approach and it's, we think it's a perfect fit for us. >>>> Shaun: Yeah, we think (that) they're going to do some really >>>> interesting, and unusual things with the Powercube in terms of their own >>>> day-to-day market and stuff. But we'll let them report back in the next >>>> webinar. >>>> Pat: Second company is a clothing company, also a Dublin-based company >>>> called Brickbear. Ahm, same as, these guys are into some very different >>>> type of clothing, and, we think there's.. there's a very nice fix as >>>> regards what the Powercube can produce for them on a day-to-day basis. >>>> Shaun: And while we do have a business relationship obviously with >>>> Rabbithole and Brickbear, gone to (there) myself and Pat sizes, but.. >>>> there's no actual formal relationship. One last thing that we should say is >>>> that while the O-Cube is the first commercially available product with >>>> Orbo, there's a lot of stuff that's happening behind the scenes with >>>> respect to commercial licensing and what we're going to do is play you a >>>> quick video of the first.. an interview with the founder of the first >>>> commercial licensee of Orbo, and we'll let him speak for himself about his >>>> business, and what they're doing with Orbo. >>>> ---- >>>> Liquid Solutions >>>> Killian McGrath (Founder): Liquid Solutions manufactures and >>>> distributes E-Juice products for the E-Cigarette industry. We manufacture >>>> them here in Waterford in our own facility, we do all the testing >>>> independently from outside the facility, and we produce a very high-grade >>>> product within this facility. We've the class to produce about a hundred >>>> thousand bottles a day, or five hundred thousand bottles a week, that's >>>> basically our production capacity. Yeah, the functions have gone really >>>> crazy, like when we started out first, we would've started out with a 650 >>>> milliamp battery. You know, a user would use that, in a day, you know and >>>> they would charge it again and they'd use it all over again the next day. >>>> They'd be using a head that would burn about one point six mills of juice a >>>> day. Now, four years forward, they're using heads that have 3 and 4 coils >>>> inside (of) them, they would burn four or five times juice with less >>>> nicotine, so, that's.. the trend is going there with the big vaporus, is >>>> they want less nicotine, and more puff, ok, so we're now starting to >>>> manufacture three milligram juice, whereas before, the weakest we done was >>>> six. Ok, now, three is the highest in the dripping, because they're taking >>>> in so much liquid to produce so much vapour, ok, they're still getting the >>>> amount of nicotine that they need, but they're burning about four times >>>> more juice. >>>> >>>> Well, you have, I suppose everybody and their mother after you really, >>>> if you think about it, because you know, the three big gorillas inside, >>>> you've got the tobacco companies we're doing a lot of damage to them. The >>>> E-Cig is doing so much damage to them now they wanna come in and take it >>>> over. Then you have the pharmaceutical guys, OK, the guys that are sitting >>>> in the background, they're like the little snipers, you know, they're >>>> pushing off press-releases, they're pushing out this just to discredit the >>>> product, why? Because nobody is buying patches, nobody's buying chewing >>>> gum, nobody is buying champax(?), OK, they've lost a whole industry, this >>>> product is taking over their industry, OK? >>>> >>>> Then you have the government side of it, the government is losing a lot >>>> of money from it, on the short side, because on the short side, they're >>>> losing revenue from taxes immediately, but on the long side, they would see >>>> the benefits of that in five or ten years, because they'll have less >>>> serious, I suppose carcinogenic-associated health problems, moving forward >>>> with the population. They will have less respiratory problems, because >>>> cigarettes are a huge cause of respiratory problems, in especially >>>> overweight people, and, people that are getting older in age. So the whole >>>> idea is that the British medical organization came out only a month ago and >>>> they said that if everybody in the UK gave up cigarettes and went on to >>>> electronic cigarettes, they would save 80,000 lives a year. >>>> -- >>>> Liquid Solutions & Orbo >>>> Killian: In 2005 I would've went to a meeting in Steorn's offices in >>>> the Innovation Park in the Watlands(?) I would've sat down and listened to >>>> what the guys had found or were working on, and I would be that type of >>>> person, I would be very interested in stuff like that. New, something >>>> that's new, something that's cheeky and something that nobody else is >>>> doing. >>>> So yeah, I fell in love with the product, with the technology, and, >>>> yeah, that was 2005. 2006 you were making waves and you were moving along, >>>> then we all know what happened in 2007 and 2008, we had the big crash. >>>> Shaun: Fucking great, wasn't it! >>>> Killian: Yeah that was brilliant. We all had fun there! And I suppose >>>> when I started this project, Shaun, when I started three and a half years >>>> ago with Wicked E-Juice and making the juices, and then I kind of got a >>>> brain-wave one day and I said "Hmm, maybe we can get a battery from Steorn >>>> that we don't need to charge". And that's what started this whole project. >>>> But they're looking at today, they've gone up to 3,5 thousand milliamp >>>> unit, with a .2 warm head(?), up to 50 watt, now 100 watt, I was in England >>>> yesterday and I saw my first 300 watt battery (laughs), so, it's gone >>>> totally to the other side, it's gone to the total other extreme, whether >>>> that's going to stay going that way, or it's a fad and it'll eventually >>>> come back down to fairly standard products where you're using a 20 watt >>>> product or a 10 watt product which is roughly around 9 volts, 8 volts.. >>>> Killian: Ahh.. No frustration. Little bit behind the times, but you >>>> know, it's not a lollypop we're making here. You know what I mean? We're >>>> breaking new ground here. This has never ever been done before. You know, >>>> this is bigger than big, you know, this is bigger than the biggest thing >>>> that's going on in the world today, only for people don't know about us, >>>> and that's our job, our job is to get the products out there so people do >>>> know about us. >>>> We're Henry Ford with the Model T. That's where we are today. In ten >>>> years time, we may be Ferrari, you know, doing three hundred miles an hour, >>>> instead of ten miles an hour. That's all engineering challenges. To come >>>> over the next ten years, but that's where this product is going to go. This >>>> is only the beginning, we're only at the beginning, we're only scratching >>>> the surface where we are with this technology today. Where will we be in >>>> ten or thirty years of time.. >>>> God only knows. >>>> --- >>>> Shaun: So, I wanna pretty much thank everybody for taking the time to >>>> watch this video, ahm, I know there's probably a lot in it, an awful lot of >>>> questions that people about the technology, does it work, how it works, and >>>> so on, let me be clear. We're not getting into any technical details at >>>> this stage. But what we'll be doing is hearing from the guys who are using >>>> it. The next webinar we'll announce the date of it, early next week, we'll >>>> also in the next webinar be showing you some of the other products that are >>>> in the pipeline, we're showing some of the R&D stuff with respect to where >>>> does the Orbo battery go after the Powercube, and it will be obviously in >>>> mobile consumer electronics, so, all I'm saying, again, thanks very much >>>> from meself and Pat, we look forward to seeing you next time. >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Transcript by Esa Ruoho / http://lackluster.bandcamp.com/ / >>>> esaru...@icloud.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> --- >>>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>> >> > > > -- > --- > http://twitter.com/esaruoho // http://lackluster.bandcamp.com // > +358403703659 // > skype:esajuhaniruoho // http://esaruoho.tumblr.com/ // iMessage: > esaru...@gmail.com // >
