Morning Esa,
Did you hear from others that they ordered or received an invoice?
I got my emails from them to wait for further instructions, but heard
nothing since Monday.
Op 9 dec. 2015 07:06 schreef "Esa Ruoho" <>:

> Hi Marcus! Sure!
> I know at least two organizations who are going to purchase one. One is in
> Australia, and another is in Finland. The Finns have a crowdfund project.
> <-
> I'm trying to get in to record the electromagnetic fields + activities of
> both of the devices, the Ocube and the Ophone. I hope they'll sound juicy
> enough to be made electronic music out of.
> On 2 December 2015 at 16:14, Marcus Winckers <> wrote:
>> Hey Esa,
>> I see  that you, like me, are interested in the Cube.  I  am planning on
>> buying one  later in the day if possible. My christmass present for
>> myself.  Shall we keep in touch and exchange thoughts and experiences?
>> Marcus Winckers
>> Utrecht
>> Netherlands.
>> Op 29 okt. 2015 07:38 schreef "Esa Ruoho" <>:
>> If you guys like the internets more, the transcript is mirrored here:
>>> On 29 October 2015 at 02:17, Esa Ruoho <> wrote:
>>>> Hi, here's my transcript of the Orbo Steorn Webinar broadcast on the
>>>> 28th October 2015.
>>>> If you use any of it, please credit accordingly.
>>>> the video is at
>>>> --
>>>> Pat: Welcome to the Orbo Webinar. We're here today to introduce you to
>>>> the first Orbo product, the O-Cube. Orbo is a highly controversial
>>>> technology ... (Shaun places the O-Cube on the table) ..and we're going to
>>>> demonstrate the functionality of the O-Cube. Before we do that, however, we
>>>> want to just give you a brief flavour of who we are and the journey that
>>>> we've taken over the last fifteen years.
>>>> ---
>>>> Shaun: So, twelve and a half years ago, yeah? Tell me, how on earth,
>>>> you got into this crazy company.
>>>> Pat: The beginning's actually going back fourteen years ago, because,
>>>> what happened was, in 2001, I was looking to evaluate a particular piece of
>>>> technology, nothing to do with Steorn.. And, I didn't know how to evaluate
>>>> it, and I made a number of calls, and I was put in contact with yourselves.
>>>> So, I met Mike and yourself in 2001 and you looked at the proposition, the
>>>> technology we're looking at, and you evaluated it and you said look,
>>>> listen, this is not, you know, something to look at.. so, that was the way
>>>> it was left. And, I went to meet you then in April 2004 and the purpose of
>>>> that conversation was.. ahm..
>>>> Shaun: "Where's me fucking money" (laughs)
>>>> Pat: Well, it wasn't, it wasn't even at that, because I knew, like, the
>>>> proposition for what is.. But the point you were putting to me, was you
>>>> said, "Look, we're looking for a venture capital..".. you said to me, first
>>>> of all, you said to me, "I'm looking for a VC company", and what I did
>>>> was.. I.. The first thing I did probably before I even looked beyond them
>>>> was, I got a friend of mine who's a, you know, he's an engineer and I got
>>>> him to go in and spend some time with yourself and Mike and to evaluate
>>>> what it was. And.. I can remember walking out of Fumberly Court as it was
>>>> on a Friday afternoon and.. the two of yous were walking along side by
>>>> side.. I said "What you think?" and he just said "Can I invest?". And it
>>>> was, it was kind of like that, and I said "Are you serious?" and he said,
>>>> "Pat, If this is right" he said, "This is gonna to be very very serious."
>>>> ----
>>>> Mike: So Shaun, looking a bit tired.. Understandable. Ten years
>>>> defending your claims and yourself. Ahm, give us a little bit of background
>>>> about Steorn, for a bit, new people tuning in today.
>>>> Shaun: Steorn was a company that you and me founded, Mike. Back in
>>>> 2000, and we started doing project management.. We were in the world of
>>>> fruit, a lot of bananas. And then we started developing technology for
>>>> others, as you know, that's when we developed forensic systems for
>>>> companies like Microsoft and credit card companies, and we did expert
>>>> witnessing, in, fraud..
>>>> Mike: (interrupts) So you get on..
>>>> Shaun: And then one day..
>>>> Mike: (interrupts) And then one day you're sitting there at your desk,
>>>> magnets spinning around, and you decide: "I need an ad in the Economist".
>>>> Shaun: One day we made a discovery, whatever you gonna call it, a
>>>> mistake, depending on where you sit, where we went, yeah, look..
>>>> We can get more energy out of these bizarre magnetic fields than we're
>>>> putting in, isn't that really cool? And wouldn't it be great to build
>>>> something that uses this, put it in the market, and hopefully make a lot of
>>>> money.
>>>> ---
>>>> Alex?: When I saw yous guys coming in, and meeting up after work, I
>>>> realized that yous were doing a lot of brainstorming, and once I, you know,
>>>> I didn't really know much about it, because I kept hearing the name Steorn,
>>>> and I didn't really know how to pronounce it or anything like that, but I
>>>> realized that yous were doing some interesting stuff, but it's been
>>>> enjoyable seeing the progression over the years, and, you know, we're
>>>> really, really really interested in what's going on, ahm, you know..
>>>> Shaun: And you.. You see all the lads from Steorn, outside and about,
>>>> in and out of there, these lads that just (heard) about every provocation
>>>> and word and insult in the world, they're called conman, scam-artist, and
>>>> so on, you've seen them at their most vulnerable. Honestly what do you
>>>> think of them?
>>>> Alex?:  I've never seen them worry, I've never seen them. I like them,
>>>> genuinely like, I know yous all, right down to Max, I've played poker with
>>>> so many of yous, we've shared so many late nights, and I remember telling
>>>> my friends, you know, we're also in business, and I said, this guy doing
>>>> mad stuff with magnets, like, you know, and yeah.. Yous are operating in,
>>>> you know, this crazy environment, and, when we, you know, when we
>>>> eventually -- when you actually turned around and said that we could have
>>>> one of these boxes in the pub for a while, I mean, I was just cackahoop
>>>> when I saw.. When I heard that, and I mean, you know, not.. Partly I was
>>>> wondering what the hell it is, but the other part of it is just really
>>>> really interested at being involved with something so revolutionary..
>>>> --
>>>> Shaun: Ok, Pat, so, you have hustled twenty odd million, and went to
>>>> private investors around Ireland, and that started twelve years ago, yeah?
>>>> In that twelve years the company has failed, and failed again, and failed
>>>> again and failed again. And Pat Corbett has raised money again, raised
>>>> money again and raised money again. What the fuck?
>>>> Pat: (pause) Ahm, see that's that word, failure, you see. Look.. You
>>>> know.. We haven't..
>>>> Shaun: Failed. Failed with the jury, failed with the London demo,
>>>> failed to ever show anything convincing to anybody, failed to put a product
>>>> in the market. Twelve years of failure, Pat's driving around the country,
>>>> taking money from people.
>>>> Pat: Yeah, as it was, if you look at it like that, if you're looking at
>>>> it from the outside in, Shaun, that's that's, that's what it is, it's
>>>> failure, you know. People, you know, and.. And right now, you know (what) I
>>>> mean, and over the years, there is that, there's a huge level of fear and
>>>> nervousness among the shareholders.
>>>> Shaun: How does Pat know, Corbett know that it'll work?
>>>> Pat: (pause) Pat Corbett has always known that it works.
>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) No no, how does Pat Corbett know that the Powercube
>>>> will work?
>>>> Pat: (pause) The only reason Pat can say based on..
>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) a great pause, that's - fucking aye, that was the
>>>> money shot.. go-on (laughs)
>>>> Pat: The only way Pat.. Pat has had one of the, one of the original
>>>> Powercubes that he had basically going around in his car for a month..
>>>> Shaun: Okay.
>>>> Pat: Now, that worked for a month, that shouldn't happen. That did work.
>>>> Shaun: Okay.
>>>> Pat: So, like, in other words, all I can do, Shaun, is, as, all I can
>>>> do, is say, alright, give the benefit of my knowledge and experience. I'm
>>>> not a scientist, I'm never, like, I'm not an engineer.
>>>> Shaun: For twenty odd million, yeah, where's it gone?
>>>> Pat:  The money has gone, in.. it's twelve years, so, like if you said,
>>>> to run a business over twelve years, you know, that cost money, like we've
>>>> spent a lot of money on equipment, we've spent a lot of money on papers,
>>>> we've spent a lot of money on staff.
>>>> --
>>>> Shaun: Let's say it all falls flat on it's face. If technology works,
>>>> doesn't work, the whole thing goes wallop. Yeah?
>>>> Pat: Yeah.
>>>> Shaun: K? Where's Pat Corbett - where's Pat Corbett when he looks at
>>>> his fucking two kids and his wife, and he goes, "I just wasted twelve years
>>>> of my life, destroyed my reputation".. Where's Pat then?
>>>> Pat: Ahm. It's not something I've actually thought about..
>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) I'm asking you though.
>>>> Pat: Yeah. The most important thing in my life is how my wife looks at
>>>> me and how my two kids look at me.
>>>> Shaun: Yep.
>>>> Pat: That's it.
>>>> Shaun: And if this goes tits up?
>>>> Pat: Ahm.. (prolonged pause) The reason I feel like this..
>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) Leave it.. No, don't..
>>>> Pat: (interrupts) No, no, this is relevant.. We're not leaving it.
>>>> (pause) That emotion (pause) is to do with my wife and my kids.
>>>> Shaun: Yep.
>>>> Pat: It's nothing to do with this gone tits up. Ok? So. (inhales) Let
>>>> me clarify that. Ok? Now. I can't tell you in a way that you will
>>>> understand that I know this thing is not going to go belly up. I can't tell
>>>> anybody, like, look, if somebody's looking at this, and they're saying,
>>>> right. I'm just a person on the other end of the screen. And.. To sound
>>>> like anything, you know, if you say somebody'll see this thing about you
>>>> know, saying something,  When you look, you know, and like.. All they're
>>>> saying about everybody is that, the Henry Ford, Henry Ford said, you know I
>>>> want the v8, they said, can't be done. Steorn, you know, creating a battery
>>>> to recharge itself, can't be done. Okay? So, that's what people's.. But
>>>> actually, I know, and that's what it is, Shaun, I know. And the very thing
>>>> about all of the years, and let's forget about Shaun McCarthy for a second,
>>>> and forget Mike Daily for a second. In all the years that basically I've
>>>> been with Steorn, every single scientist or technologist that came in, into
>>>> us, the first thing, what do I do? I build a relationship with them. That's
>>>> it. You remember, d'you know, what you call it, two boys came in,
>>>> represented the company from the Middle East, let's say, they came in, and
>>>> they said, "But this works!" Well, of course it does, what did you think
>>>> we'd do? Bring yous across for the day off, d'you know what I mean? So the
>>>> thing about it, Shaun, is.. There's a question here, does it work? Yes it
>>>> does work, you know. I think the real question is: can we turn this into
>>>> something?
>>>> Shaun: Yeah.
>>>> Pat: That's the real question. But.. From the point of view of..
>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) D'you ever quit? D'you ever give up on this.
>>>> Pat: No, I won't. Because..
>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) Is there more fight left in you.. Twelve fucking
>>>> years is a long time, any more fight left in Pat Corbett?
>>>> Pat: Listen, my fight hasn't begun yet. I haven't started yet. Because
>>>> this is not.. We've, we haven't had to fight (yet), we've only had to get
>>>> over the first hurdle. This'll be the first hurdle. Look man, the fight
>>>> hasn't started yet, when the fight does.. that's why.. As I'm saying to
>>>> you, it hasn't begun yet.
>>>> ---
>>>> ?: I believe you had a t-shirt before, posted before, went something
>>>> like CEO vs COE.
>>>> Shaun: Mm-hmm.
>>>> ?: Ahm, I think the score at the moment is 5-0 in favour of COE. D'you
>>>> believe the CEO's going to win out this time?
>>>> Shaun: I'm a Birminham fan. A 5-1 result is..
>>>> ?: So you're used to losing.
>>>> Shaun: 5-1 result is considered a win. No. I, the truth of it is, yeah,
>>>> in the promoting something that blatantly looks like horse-shit, is that
>>>> you're going to get kicked around a lot. But, here's the other side of that
>>>> coin: You only have to win once. And, yeah, well we've had obvious public
>>>> failures and we've had obvious public disinterest in some of the stuff that
>>>> we've done. I only have to win once. I can lose a hundred times, and win
>>>> once. When I win once, we win.
>>>> ---
>>>> Shaun: Ok, so what we're going to do now is discuss the actual product
>>>> itself, this is what we call the O-Cube The O-Cube is a very simple device,
>>>> it's a power-brick or a power-cube that has one single USB output. USB
>>>> output is 2.1Amps, so it can charge tablets as well as smart-phones and
>>>> other devices. In terms of the components inside, there's really only three
>>>> things. There's a standard USB PCB interface electronics, there's a
>>>> Lithium-Ion battery and then there's the Orbo powerpack.
>>>> Shaun: And how it actually works is very very simple. When you plug a
>>>> device into this, what you're doing is draining the energy in the
>>>> Lithium-Ion battery. But the Orbo device, the Orbo device is constantly
>>>> powering the battery, so there can be situations where you draw and
>>>> completely drain the Lithium-Ion battery, but what will happen is that over
>>>> time, that the Orbo device itself will recharge the battery.
>>>> In terms of power output, you're looking at approximately two full
>>>> smart-phone charges in the 24 hour period. (The O-Girl appears) Pat now
>>>> will discuss the sales buys and terms of conditions, thank you O-Girl.
>>>> Pat: The O-Cube goes on sale in December and is available only from
>>>> Steorn. The cost price of this unit is 1200 euros, we're also offering a 12
>>>> month warranty return to base.
>>>> Shaun: Ok, so, the way that we're demonstrating function here is that
>>>> we're giving out the O-Cube to a variety of different people, and they will
>>>> be reporting back on their day-to-day use of it, at each of the subsequent
>>>> webinars. Pat, maybe you can tell us a couple of the people who are getting
>>>> it, and obviously there'll be more, and, as the process goes on.
>>>> Pat: Ok, the first of these companies is a company we've been working
>>>> with for the last couple of months, a company called Rabbithole Promotions.
>>>> This company works in the area of guerrilla marketing, and, (they're) very
>>>> edgy in their approach and it's, we think it's a perfect fit for us.
>>>> Shaun: Yeah, we think (that) they're going to do some really
>>>> interesting, and unusual things with the Powercube in terms of their own
>>>> day-to-day market and stuff. But we'll let them report back in the next
>>>> webinar.
>>>> Pat: Second company is a clothing company, also a Dublin-based company
>>>> called Brickbear. Ahm, same as, these guys are into some very different
>>>> type of clothing, and, we think there's.. there's a very nice fix as
>>>> regards what the Powercube can produce for them on a day-to-day basis.
>>>> Shaun: And while we do have a business relationship obviously with
>>>> Rabbithole and Brickbear, gone to (there) myself and Pat sizes, but..
>>>> there's no actual formal relationship. One last thing that we should say is
>>>> that while the O-Cube is the first commercially available product with
>>>> Orbo, there's a lot of stuff that's happening behind the scenes with
>>>> respect to commercial licensing and what we're going to do is play you a
>>>> quick video of the first.. an interview with the founder of the first
>>>> commercial licensee of Orbo, and we'll let him speak for himself about his
>>>> business, and what they're doing with Orbo.
>>>> ----
>>>> Liquid Solutions
>>>> Killian McGrath (Founder): Liquid Solutions manufactures and
>>>> distributes E-Juice products for the E-Cigarette industry. We manufacture
>>>> them here in Waterford in our own facility, we do all the testing
>>>> independently from outside the facility, and we produce a very high-grade
>>>> product within this facility. We've the class to produce about a hundred
>>>> thousand bottles a day, or five hundred thousand bottles a week, that's
>>>> basically our production capacity. Yeah, the functions have gone really
>>>> crazy, like when we started out first, we would've started out with a 650
>>>> milliamp battery. You know, a user would use that, in a day, you know and
>>>> they would charge it again and they'd use it all over again the next day.
>>>> They'd be using a head that would burn about one point six mills of juice a
>>>> day. Now, four years forward, they're using heads that have 3 and 4 coils
>>>> inside (of) them, they would burn four or five times juice with less
>>>> nicotine, so, that's.. the trend is going there with the big vaporus, is
>>>> they want less nicotine, and more puff, ok, so we're now starting to
>>>> manufacture three milligram juice, whereas before, the weakest we done was
>>>> six. Ok, now, three is the highest in the dripping, because they're taking
>>>> in so much liquid to produce so much vapour, ok, they're still getting the
>>>> amount of nicotine that they need, but they're burning about four times
>>>> more juice.
>>>> Well, you have, I suppose everybody and their mother after you really,
>>>> if you think about it, because you know, the three big gorillas inside,
>>>> you've got the tobacco companies we're doing a lot of damage to them. The
>>>> E-Cig is doing so much damage to them now they wanna come in and take it
>>>> over. Then you have the pharmaceutical guys, OK, the guys that are sitting
>>>> in the background, they're like the little snipers, you know, they're
>>>> pushing off press-releases, they're pushing out this just to discredit the
>>>> product, why? Because nobody is buying patches, nobody's buying chewing
>>>> gum, nobody is buying champax(?), OK, they've lost a whole industry, this
>>>> product is taking over their industry, OK?
>>>> Then you have the government side of it, the government is losing a lot
>>>> of money from it, on the short side, because on the short side, they're
>>>> losing revenue from taxes immediately, but on the long side, they would see
>>>> the benefits of that in five or ten years, because they'll have less
>>>> serious, I suppose carcinogenic-associated health problems, moving forward
>>>> with the population. They will have less respiratory problems, because
>>>> cigarettes are a huge cause of respiratory problems, in especially
>>>> overweight people, and, people that are getting older in age. So the whole
>>>> idea is that the British medical organization came out only a month ago and
>>>> they said that if everybody in the UK gave up cigarettes and went on to
>>>> electronic cigarettes, they would save 80,000 lives a year.
>>>> --
>>>> Liquid Solutions & Orbo
>>>> Killian: In 2005 I would've went to a meeting in Steorn's offices in
>>>> the Innovation Park in the Watlands(?) I would've sat down and listened to
>>>> what the guys had found or were working on, and I would be that type of
>>>> person, I would be very interested in stuff like that. New, something
>>>> that's new, something that's cheeky and something that nobody else is 
>>>> doing.
>>>> So yeah, I fell in love with the product, with the technology, and,
>>>> yeah, that was 2005. 2006 you were making waves and you were moving along,
>>>> then we all know what happened in 2007 and 2008, we had the big crash.
>>>> Shaun: Fucking great, wasn't it!
>>>> Killian: Yeah that was brilliant. We all had fun there! And I suppose
>>>> when I started this project, Shaun, when I started three and a half years
>>>> ago with Wicked E-Juice and making the juices, and then I kind of got a
>>>> brain-wave one day and I said "Hmm, maybe we can get a battery from Steorn
>>>> that we don't need to charge". And that's what started this whole project.
>>>> But they're looking at today, they've gone up to 3,5 thousand milliamp
>>>> unit, with a .2 warm head(?), up to 50 watt, now 100 watt, I was in England
>>>> yesterday and I saw my first 300 watt battery (laughs), so, it's gone
>>>> totally to the other side, it's gone to the total other extreme, whether
>>>> that's going to stay going that way, or it's a fad and it'll eventually
>>>> come back down to fairly standard products where you're using a 20 watt
>>>> product or a 10 watt product which is roughly around 9 volts, 8 volts..
>>>> Killian: Ahh.. No frustration. Little bit behind the times,  but you
>>>> know, it's not a lollypop we're making here. You know what I mean? We're
>>>> breaking new ground here. This has never ever been done before. You know,
>>>> this is bigger than big, you know, this is bigger than the biggest thing
>>>> that's going on in the world today, only for people don't know about us,
>>>> and that's our job, our job is to get the products out there so people do
>>>> know about us.
>>>> We're Henry Ford with the Model T. That's where we are today. In ten
>>>> years time, we may be Ferrari, you know, doing three hundred miles an hour,
>>>> instead of ten miles an hour. That's all engineering challenges. To come
>>>> over the next ten years, but that's where this product is going to go. This
>>>> is only the beginning, we're only at the beginning, we're only scratching
>>>> the surface where we are with this technology today. Where will we be in
>>>> ten or thirty years of time..
>>>> God only knows.
>>>> ---
>>>> Shaun: So, I wanna pretty much thank everybody for taking the time to
>>>> watch this video, ahm, I know there's probably a lot in it, an awful lot of
>>>> questions that people about the technology, does it work, how it works, and
>>>> so on, let me be clear. We're not getting into any technical details at
>>>> this stage.  But what we'll be doing is hearing from the guys who are using
>>>> it. The next webinar we'll announce the date of it, early next week, we'll
>>>> also in the next webinar be showing you some of the other products that are
>>>> in the pipeline, we're showing some of the R&D stuff with respect to where
>>>> does the Orbo battery go after the Powercube, and it will be obviously in
>>>> mobile consumer electronics, so, all I'm saying, again, thanks very much
>>>> from meself and Pat, we look forward to seeing you next time.
>>>> --
>>>> Transcript by Esa Ruoho / /
>>>> --
>>>> ---
>>> --
>>> ---
> --
> ---
> // //
> +358403703659 //
> skype:esajuhaniruoho // // iMessage:
> //

Reply via email to