I think frank ackland posted he received an invoice. I will mail Orbo
directly. Thanks.
Op 11 dec. 2015 11:29 schreef "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com>:

> I think I haven't seen a screenshot of someone receiving an email yet..
>
> Also, no info about shipping from ADGEX ELFE orders either.
>
> On 11 December 2015 at 11:26, Marcus Winckers <marcki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Morning Esa,
>> Did you hear from others that they ordered or received an invoice?
>> I got my emails from them to wait for further instructions, but heard
>> nothing since Monday.
>> Marcus
>> Op 9 dec. 2015 07:06 schreef "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi Marcus! Sure!
>>>
>>> I know at least two organizations who are going to purchase one. One is
>>> in Australia, and another is in Finland. The Finns have a crowdfund
>>> project.
>>> https://mesenaatti.me/en/steornin-ikiliikkujatekniikan-tutkimusprojekti/
>>> <-
>>> I'm trying to get in to record the electromagnetic fields + activities
>>> of both of the devices, the Ocube and the Ophone. I hope they'll sound
>>> juicy enough to be made electronic music out of.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2 December 2015 at 16:14, Marcus Winckers <marcki...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Esa,
>>>>
>>>> I see  that you, like me, are interested in the Cube.  I  am planning
>>>> on buying one  later in the day if possible. My christmass present for
>>>> myself.  Shall we keep in touch and exchange thoughts and experiences?
>>>>
>>>> Marcus Winckers
>>>> Utrecht
>>>> Netherlands.
>>>> Op 29 okt. 2015 07:38 schreef "Esa Ruoho" <esaru...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> If you guys like the internets more, the transcript is mirrored here:
>>>>> http://freeenergy.news/steorn/steorn-o-cube-webinar-full-transcript/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29 October 2015 at 02:17, Esa Ruoho <esaru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, here's my transcript of the Orbo Steorn Webinar broadcast on the
>>>>>> 28th October 2015.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you use any of it, please credit accordingly.
>>>>>> the video is at http://orbo.com/
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pat: Welcome to the Orbo Webinar. We're here today to introduce you
>>>>>> to the first Orbo product, the O-Cube. Orbo is a highly controversial
>>>>>> technology ... (Shaun places the O-Cube on the table) ..and we're going 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> demonstrate the functionality of the O-Cube. Before we do that, however, 
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> want to just give you a brief flavour of who we are and the journey that
>>>>>> we've taken over the last fifteen years.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Shaun: So, twelve and a half years ago, yeah? Tell me, how on earth,
>>>>>> you got into this crazy company.
>>>>>> Pat: The beginning's actually going back fourteen years ago, because,
>>>>>> what happened was, in 2001, I was looking to evaluate a particular piece 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> technology, nothing to do with Steorn.. And, I didn't know how to 
>>>>>> evaluate
>>>>>> it, and I made a number of calls, and I was put in contact with 
>>>>>> yourselves.
>>>>>> So, I met Mike and yourself in 2001 and you looked at the proposition, 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> technology we're looking at, and you evaluated it and you said look,
>>>>>> listen, this is not, you know, something to look at.. so, that was the 
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> it was left. And, I went to meet you then in April 2004 and the purpose 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> that conversation was.. ahm..
>>>>>> Shaun: "Where's me fucking money" (laughs)
>>>>>> Pat: Well, it wasn't, it wasn't even at that, because I knew, like,
>>>>>> the proposition for what is.. But the point you were putting to me, was 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> said, "Look, we're looking for a venture capital..".. you said to me, 
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> of all, you said to me, "I'm looking for a VC company", and what I did
>>>>>> was.. I.. The first thing I did probably before I even looked beyond them
>>>>>> was, I got a friend of mine who's a, you know, he's an engineer and I got
>>>>>> him to go in and spend some time with yourself and Mike and to evaluate
>>>>>> what it was. And.. I can remember walking out of Fumberly Court as it was
>>>>>> on a Friday afternoon and.. the two of yous were walking along side by
>>>>>> side.. I said "What you think?" and he just said "Can I invest?". And it
>>>>>> was, it was kind of like that, and I said "Are you serious?" and he said,
>>>>>> "Pat, If this is right" he said, "This is gonna to be very very serious."
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> Mike: So Shaun, looking a bit tired.. Understandable. Ten years
>>>>>> defending your claims and yourself. Ahm, give us a little bit of 
>>>>>> background
>>>>>> about Steorn, for a bit, new people tuning in today.
>>>>>> Shaun: Steorn was a company that you and me founded, Mike. Back in
>>>>>> 2000, and we started doing project management.. We were in the world of
>>>>>> fruit, a lot of bananas. And then we started developing technology for
>>>>>> others, as you know, that's when we developed forensic systems for
>>>>>> companies like Microsoft and credit card companies, and we did expert
>>>>>> witnessing, in, fraud..
>>>>>> Mike: (interrupts) So you get on..
>>>>>> Shaun: And then one day..
>>>>>> Mike: (interrupts) And then one day you're sitting there at your
>>>>>> desk, magnets spinning around, and you decide: "I need an ad in the
>>>>>> Economist".
>>>>>> Shaun: One day we made a discovery, whatever you gonna call it, a
>>>>>> mistake, depending on where you sit, where we went, yeah, look..
>>>>>> We can get more energy out of these bizarre magnetic fields than
>>>>>> we're putting in, isn't that really cool? And wouldn't it be great to 
>>>>>> build
>>>>>> something that uses this, put it in the market, and hopefully make a lot 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> money.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Alex?: When I saw yous guys coming in, and meeting up after work, I
>>>>>> realized that yous were doing a lot of brainstorming, and once I, you 
>>>>>> know,
>>>>>> I didn't really know much about it, because I kept hearing the name 
>>>>>> Steorn,
>>>>>> and I didn't really know how to pronounce it or anything like that, but I
>>>>>> realized that yous were doing some interesting stuff, but it's been
>>>>>> enjoyable seeing the progression over the years, and, you know, we're
>>>>>> really, really really interested in what's going on, ahm, you know..
>>>>>> Shaun: And you.. You see all the lads from Steorn, outside and about,
>>>>>> in and out of there, these lads that just (heard) about every provocation
>>>>>> and word and insult in the world, they're called conman, scam-artist, and
>>>>>> so on, you've seen them at their most vulnerable. Honestly what do you
>>>>>> think of them?
>>>>>> Alex?:  I've never seen them worry, I've never seen them. I like
>>>>>> them, genuinely like, I know yous all, right down to Max, I've played 
>>>>>> poker
>>>>>> with so many of yous, we've shared so many late nights, and I remember
>>>>>> telling my friends, you know, we're also in business, and I said, this 
>>>>>> guy
>>>>>> doing mad stuff with magnets, like, you know, and yeah.. Yous are 
>>>>>> operating
>>>>>> in, you know, this crazy environment, and, when we, you know, when we
>>>>>> eventually -- when you actually turned around and said that we could have
>>>>>> one of these boxes in the pub for a while, I mean, I was just cackahoop
>>>>>> when I saw.. When I heard that, and I mean, you know, not.. Partly I was
>>>>>> wondering what the hell it is, but the other part of it is just really
>>>>>> really interested at being involved with something so revolutionary..
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Shaun: Ok, Pat, so, you have hustled twenty odd million, and went to
>>>>>> private investors around Ireland, and that started twelve years ago, 
>>>>>> yeah?
>>>>>> In that twelve years the company has failed, and failed again, and failed
>>>>>> again and failed again. And Pat Corbett has raised money again, raised
>>>>>> money again and raised money again. What the fuck?
>>>>>> Pat: (pause) Ahm, see that's that word, failure, you see. Look.. You
>>>>>> know.. We haven't..
>>>>>> Shaun: Failed. Failed with the jury, failed with the London demo,
>>>>>> failed to ever show anything convincing to anybody, failed to put a 
>>>>>> product
>>>>>> in the market. Twelve years of failure, Pat's driving around the country,
>>>>>> taking money from people.
>>>>>> Pat: Yeah, as it was, if you look at it like that, if you're looking
>>>>>> at it from the outside in, Shaun, that's that's, that's what it is, it's
>>>>>> failure, you know. People, you know, and.. And right now, you know 
>>>>>> (what) I
>>>>>> mean, and over the years, there is that, there's a huge level of fear and
>>>>>> nervousness among the shareholders.
>>>>>> Shaun: How does Pat know, Corbett know that it'll work?
>>>>>> Pat: (pause) Pat Corbett has always known that it works.
>>>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) No no, how does Pat Corbett know that the
>>>>>> Powercube will work?
>>>>>> Pat: (pause) The only reason Pat can say based on..
>>>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) a great pause, that's - fucking aye, that was the
>>>>>> money shot.. go-on (laughs)
>>>>>> Pat: The only way Pat.. Pat has had one of the, one of the original
>>>>>> Powercubes that he had basically going around in his car for a month..
>>>>>> Shaun: Okay.
>>>>>> Pat: Now, that worked for a month, that shouldn't happen. That did
>>>>>> work.
>>>>>> Shaun: Okay.
>>>>>> Pat: So, like, in other words, all I can do, Shaun, is, as, all I can
>>>>>> do, is say, alright, give the benefit of my knowledge and experience. I'm
>>>>>> not a scientist, I'm never, like, I'm not an engineer.
>>>>>> Shaun: For twenty odd million, yeah, where's it gone?
>>>>>> Pat:  The money has gone, in.. it's twelve years, so, like if you
>>>>>> said, to run a business over twelve years, you know, that cost money, 
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> we've spent a lot of money on equipment, we've spent a lot of money on
>>>>>> papers, we've spent a lot of money on staff.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Shaun: Let's say it all falls flat on it's face. If technology works,
>>>>>> doesn't work, the whole thing goes wallop. Yeah?
>>>>>> Pat: Yeah.
>>>>>> Shaun: K? Where's Pat Corbett - where's Pat Corbett when he looks at
>>>>>> his fucking two kids and his wife, and he goes, "I just wasted twelve 
>>>>>> years
>>>>>> of my life, destroyed my reputation".. Where's Pat then?
>>>>>> Pat: Ahm. It's not something I've actually thought about..
>>>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) I'm asking you though.
>>>>>> Pat: Yeah. The most important thing in my life is how my wife looks
>>>>>> at me and how my two kids look at me.
>>>>>> Shaun: Yep.
>>>>>> Pat: That's it.
>>>>>> Shaun: And if this goes tits up?
>>>>>> Pat: Ahm.. (prolonged pause) The reason I feel like this..
>>>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) Leave it.. No, don't..
>>>>>> Pat: (interrupts) No, no, this is relevant.. We're not leaving it.
>>>>>> (pause) That emotion (pause) is to do with my wife and my kids.
>>>>>> Shaun: Yep.
>>>>>> Pat: It's nothing to do with this gone tits up. Ok? So. (inhales) Let
>>>>>> me clarify that. Ok? Now. I can't tell you in a way that you will
>>>>>> understand that I know this thing is not going to go belly up. I can't 
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> anybody, like, look, if somebody's looking at this, and they're saying,
>>>>>> right. I'm just a person on the other end of the screen. And.. To sound
>>>>>> like anything, you know, if you say somebody'll see this thing about you
>>>>>> know, saying something,  When you look, you know, and like.. All they're
>>>>>> saying about everybody is that, the Henry Ford, Henry Ford said, you 
>>>>>> know I
>>>>>> want the v8, they said, can't be done. Steorn, you know, creating a 
>>>>>> battery
>>>>>> to recharge itself, can't be done. Okay? So, that's what people's.. But
>>>>>> actually, I know, and that's what it is, Shaun, I know. And the very 
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> about all of the years, and let's forget about Shaun McCarthy for a 
>>>>>> second,
>>>>>> and forget Mike Daily for a second. In all the years that basically I've
>>>>>> been with Steorn, every single scientist or technologist that came in, 
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> us, the first thing, what do I do? I build a relationship with them. 
>>>>>> That's
>>>>>> it. You remember, d'you know, what you call it, two boys came in,
>>>>>> represented the company from the Middle East, let's say, they came in, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> they said, "But this works!" Well, of course it does, what did you think
>>>>>> we'd do? Bring yous across for the day off, d'you know what I mean? So 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> thing about it, Shaun, is.. There's a question here, does it work? Yes it
>>>>>> does work, you know. I think the real question is: can we turn this into
>>>>>> something?
>>>>>> Shaun: Yeah.
>>>>>> Pat: That's the real question. But.. From the point of view of..
>>>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) D'you ever quit? D'you ever give up on this.
>>>>>> Pat: No, I won't. Because..
>>>>>> Shaun: (interrupts) Is there more fight left in you.. Twelve fucking
>>>>>> years is a long time, any more fight left in Pat Corbett?
>>>>>> Pat: Listen, my fight hasn't begun yet. I haven't started yet.
>>>>>> Because this is not.. We've, we haven't had to fight (yet), we've only 
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> to get over the first hurdle. This'll be the first hurdle. Look man, the
>>>>>> fight hasn't started yet, when the fight does.. that's why.. As I'm 
>>>>>> saying
>>>>>> to you, it hasn't begun yet.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> ?: I believe you had a t-shirt before, posted before, went something
>>>>>> like CEO vs COE.
>>>>>> Shaun: Mm-hmm.
>>>>>> ?: Ahm, I think the score at the moment is 5-0 in favour of COE.
>>>>>> D'you believe the CEO's going to win out this time?
>>>>>> Shaun: I'm a Birminham fan. A 5-1 result is..
>>>>>> ?: So you're used to losing.
>>>>>> Shaun: 5-1 result is considered a win. No. I, the truth of it is,
>>>>>> yeah, in the promoting something that blatantly looks like horse-shit, is
>>>>>> that you're going to get kicked around a lot. But, here's the other side 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> that coin: You only have to win once. And, yeah, well we've had obvious
>>>>>> public failures and we've had obvious public disinterest in some of the
>>>>>> stuff that we've done. I only have to win once. I can lose a hundred 
>>>>>> times,
>>>>>> and win once. When I win once, we win.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Shaun: Ok, so what we're going to do now is discuss the actual
>>>>>> product itself, this is what we call the O-Cube The O-Cube is a very 
>>>>>> simple
>>>>>> device, it's a power-brick or a power-cube that has one single USB 
>>>>>> output.
>>>>>> USB output is 2.1Amps, so it can charge tablets as well as smart-phones 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> other devices. In terms of the components inside, there's really only 
>>>>>> three
>>>>>> things. There's a standard USB PCB interface electronics, there's a
>>>>>> Lithium-Ion battery and then there's the Orbo powerpack.
>>>>>> Shaun: And how it actually works is very very simple. When you plug a
>>>>>> device into this, what you're doing is draining the energy in the
>>>>>> Lithium-Ion battery. But the Orbo device, the Orbo device is constantly
>>>>>> powering the battery, so there can be situations where you draw and
>>>>>> completely drain the Lithium-Ion battery, but what will happen is that 
>>>>>> over
>>>>>> time, that the Orbo device itself will recharge the battery.
>>>>>> In terms of power output, you're looking at approximately two full
>>>>>> smart-phone charges in the 24 hour period. (The O-Girl appears) Pat now
>>>>>> will discuss the sales buys and terms of conditions, thank you O-Girl.
>>>>>> Pat: The O-Cube goes on sale in December and is available only from
>>>>>> Steorn. The cost price of this unit is 1200 euros, we're also offering a 
>>>>>> 12
>>>>>> month warranty return to base.
>>>>>> Shaun: Ok, so, the way that we're demonstrating function here is that
>>>>>> we're giving out the O-Cube to a variety of different people, and they 
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be reporting back on their day-to-day use of it, at each of the 
>>>>>> subsequent
>>>>>> webinars. Pat, maybe you can tell us a couple of the people who are 
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> it, and obviously there'll be more, and, as the process goes on.
>>>>>> Pat: Ok, the first of these companies is a company we've been working
>>>>>> with for the last couple of months, a company called Rabbithole 
>>>>>> Promotions.
>>>>>> This company works in the area of guerrilla marketing, and, (they're) 
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> edgy in their approach and it's, we think it's a perfect fit for us.
>>>>>> Shaun: Yeah, we think (that) they're going to do some really
>>>>>> interesting, and unusual things with the Powercube in terms of their own
>>>>>> day-to-day market and stuff. But we'll let them report back in the
>>>>>> next webinar.
>>>>>> Pat: Second company is a clothing company, also a Dublin-based
>>>>>> company called Brickbear. Ahm, same as, these guys are into some very
>>>>>> different type of clothing, and, we think there's.. there's a very nice 
>>>>>> fix
>>>>>> as regards what the Powercube can produce for them on a day-to-day basis.
>>>>>> Shaun: And while we do have a business relationship obviously with
>>>>>> Rabbithole and Brickbear, gone to (there) myself and Pat sizes, but..
>>>>>> there's no actual formal relationship. One last thing that we should say 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> that while the O-Cube is the first commercially available product with
>>>>>> Orbo, there's a lot of stuff that's happening behind the scenes with
>>>>>> respect to commercial licensing and what we're going to do is play you a
>>>>>> quick video of the first.. an interview with the founder of the first
>>>>>> commercial licensee of Orbo, and we'll let him speak for himself about 
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> business, and what they're doing with Orbo.
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>> Liquid Solutions
>>>>>> Killian McGrath (Founder): Liquid Solutions manufactures and
>>>>>> distributes E-Juice products for the E-Cigarette industry. We manufacture
>>>>>> them here in Waterford in our own facility, we do all the testing
>>>>>> independently from outside the facility, and we produce a very high-grade
>>>>>> product within this facility. We've the class to produce about a hundred
>>>>>> thousand bottles a day, or five hundred thousand bottles a week, that's
>>>>>> basically our production capacity. Yeah, the functions have gone really
>>>>>> crazy, like when we started out first, we would've started out with a 650
>>>>>> milliamp battery. You know, a user would use that, in a day, you know and
>>>>>> they would charge it again and they'd use it all over again the next day.
>>>>>> They'd be using a head that would burn about one point six mills of 
>>>>>> juice a
>>>>>> day. Now, four years forward, they're using heads that have 3 and 4 coils
>>>>>> inside (of) them, they would burn four or five times juice with less
>>>>>> nicotine, so, that's.. the trend is going there with the big vaporus, is
>>>>>> they want less nicotine, and more puff, ok, so we're now starting to
>>>>>> manufacture three milligram juice, whereas before, the weakest we done 
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> six. Ok, now, three is the highest in the dripping, because they're 
>>>>>> taking
>>>>>> in so much liquid to produce so much vapour, ok, they're still getting 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> amount of nicotine that they need, but they're burning about four times
>>>>>> more juice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, you have, I suppose everybody and their mother after you
>>>>>> really, if you think about it, because you know, the three big gorillas
>>>>>> inside, you've got the tobacco companies we're doing a lot of damage to
>>>>>> them. The E-Cig is doing so much damage to them now they wanna come in 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> take it over. Then you have the pharmaceutical guys, OK, the guys that 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> sitting in the background, they're like the little snipers, you know,
>>>>>> they're pushing off press-releases, they're pushing out this just to
>>>>>> discredit the product, why? Because nobody is buying patches, nobody's
>>>>>> buying chewing gum, nobody is buying champax(?), OK, they've lost a whole
>>>>>> industry, this product is taking over their industry, OK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then you have the government side of it, the government is losing a
>>>>>> lot of money from it, on the short side, because on the short side, 
>>>>>> they're
>>>>>> losing revenue from taxes immediately, but on the long side, they would 
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> the benefits of that in five or ten years, because they'll have less
>>>>>> serious, I suppose carcinogenic-associated health problems, moving 
>>>>>> forward
>>>>>> with the population. They will have less respiratory problems, because
>>>>>> cigarettes are a huge cause of respiratory problems, in especially
>>>>>> overweight people, and, people that are getting older in age. So the 
>>>>>> whole
>>>>>> idea is that the British medical organization came out only a month ago 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> they said that if everybody in the UK gave up cigarettes and went on to
>>>>>> electronic cigarettes, they would save 80,000 lives a year.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Liquid Solutions & Orbo
>>>>>> Killian: In 2005 I would've went to a meeting in Steorn's offices in
>>>>>> the Innovation Park in the Watlands(?) I would've sat down and listened 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> what the guys had found or were working on, and I would be that type of
>>>>>> person, I would be very interested in stuff like that. New, something
>>>>>> that's new, something that's cheeky and something that nobody else is 
>>>>>> doing.
>>>>>> So yeah, I fell in love with the product, with the technology, and,
>>>>>> yeah, that was 2005. 2006 you were making waves and you were moving 
>>>>>> along,
>>>>>> then we all know what happened in 2007 and 2008, we had the big crash.
>>>>>> Shaun: Fucking great, wasn't it!
>>>>>> Killian: Yeah that was brilliant. We all had fun there! And I suppose
>>>>>> when I started this project, Shaun, when I started three and a half years
>>>>>> ago with Wicked E-Juice and making the juices, and then I kind of got a
>>>>>> brain-wave one day and I said "Hmm, maybe we can get a battery from 
>>>>>> Steorn
>>>>>> that we don't need to charge". And that's what started this whole 
>>>>>> project.
>>>>>> But they're looking at today, they've gone up to 3,5 thousand
>>>>>> milliamp unit, with a .2 warm head(?), up to 50 watt, now 100 watt, I was
>>>>>> in England yesterday and I saw my first 300 watt battery (laughs), so, 
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> gone totally to the other side, it's gone to the total other extreme,
>>>>>> whether that's going to stay going that way, or it's a fad and it'll
>>>>>> eventually come back down to fairly standard products where you're using 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> 20 watt product or a 10 watt product which is roughly around 9 volts, 8
>>>>>> volts..
>>>>>> Killian: Ahh.. No frustration. Little bit behind the times,  but you
>>>>>> know, it's not a lollypop we're making here. You know what I mean? We're
>>>>>> breaking new ground here. This has never ever been done before. You know,
>>>>>> this is bigger than big, you know, this is bigger than the biggest thing
>>>>>> that's going on in the world today, only for people don't know about us,
>>>>>> and that's our job, our job is to get the products out there so people do
>>>>>> know about us.
>>>>>> We're Henry Ford with the Model T. That's where we are today. In ten
>>>>>> years time, we may be Ferrari, you know, doing three hundred miles an 
>>>>>> hour,
>>>>>> instead of ten miles an hour. That's all engineering challenges. To come
>>>>>> over the next ten years, but that's where this product is going to go. 
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> is only the beginning, we're only at the beginning, we're only scratching
>>>>>> the surface where we are with this technology today. Where will we be in
>>>>>> ten or thirty years of time..
>>>>>> God only knows.
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> Shaun: So, I wanna pretty much thank everybody for taking the time to
>>>>>> watch this video, ahm, I know there's probably a lot in it, an awful lot 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> questions that people about the technology, does it work, how it works, 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> so on, let me be clear. We're not getting into any technical details at
>>>>>> this stage.  But what we'll be doing is hearing from the guys who are 
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> it. The next webinar we'll announce the date of it, early next week, 
>>>>>> we'll
>>>>>> also in the next webinar be showing you some of the other products that 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> in the pipeline, we're showing some of the R&D stuff with respect to 
>>>>>> where
>>>>>> does the Orbo battery go after the Powercube, and it will be obviously in
>>>>>> mobile consumer electronics, so, all I'm saying, again, thanks very much
>>>>>> from meself and Pat, we look forward to seeing you next time.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Transcript by Esa Ruoho / http://lackluster.bandcamp.com/ /
>>>>>> esaru...@icloud.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---
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>>>>>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com
>>>>>>
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