I think hydrogen embrittlement is thought to be merely the accumulation of H 
gas at grain boundaries of the steel and the resulting internal stress that 
results.  That is why heat treating steel after welding using anything that can 
form hydrogen, especially damp electrodes,  always needs to be done to drive 
the H gas out of the welded area.  I doubt embrittlement has anything to do 
with UDH.

Bob Cook

From: Teslaalset 
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 6:50 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Iron oxide, hydrogen and a mechanism for densification

Good point. Embrittlement could indeed be coupled to UHD. 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Jones Beene <[email protected]> wrote:

  Typically, in the production of iron, hematite is reduced using coke or coal… 
almost never with hydrogen. That is because there are known problems with 
hydrogen, besides cost.



  The main reason for using carbon is that coal and coke is extremely cheap – 
and it takes a lot of it, but hydrogen when present tends to cause “hydrogen 
embrittlement” in iron, which could be related to UDH. In fact, coke is used 
instead of coal because it has no hydrogen content.



  Embrittlement, in severe cases is related to long time exposure to hydrogen, 
and this could indicate that some of the damage is being caused by UDH, as it 
densifies and penetrates. IOW, any hydrogen exposure to iron causes problems – 
and the longer the exposure, the worse the problem.



  From: Teslaalset 



  Ø  wouldn't that have caused numeral problems at traditional production of 
magnetite using 3Fe2O3 + H2 → 2Fe3O4 +H2O, assuming UDH can be made in a 
similar manner ? Holmlid indicated in one of his papers that UDH can be formed 
as well using Shell 105 catalyst. 

    The “leap of faith” and it is large… is that in a matrix of iron-oxide, 
loaded with pressurized deuterium which is absorbed (and is bosonic) there will 
be an continuous oscillation and change in volume of the nanopores, when 
hematite changes to magnetite and back again – and this oscillation will create 
shock waves which are comparable at that small geometry, to what Holmlid sees 
with laser pulses. These would occur at IR frequencies in a heated pressure 
vessel, which is also magnetized. Because of the IR, there could be a plasmonic 
effect.

    The nano shock waves would be combined with large changes in local 
magnetism, as the phase shifts from ferromagnetic ordering to antiferromagnetic 
rapidly. There is likely to be a contribution from DCE – the dynamical Casimir 
effect.

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