I subscribe to a relativistic explanation for Casimir effect and the molecular 
form of hydrogen that forms from atomic hydrogen inside these voids would be 
contracted with the potential to either escape or, if the hydrogen is being 
loaded under pressure, allow even more atomic hydrogen inside to form more and 
further contracted molecules.  As the trapped population grows inside the iron 
dislocations it pushes the relativistic h2 into inertial frames where they get 
more space in exchange for time dilation. IMHO these relativistic molecules 
treat the dislocations like pump houses until they get small enough to escape 
the dislocation and load into the lattice  - these lattice bound f/h2 would be 
my explanation for life after death claims as the fractional H2  slowly 
disassociate and reassociate to escape the lattice. I think the molecular bonds 
formed in these “pump houses” oppose changes in the vacuum density that would 
normally allow atomic hydrogen atoms to translate freely between negative 
values of vacuum density and the isotropy, escaping the dislocation with both 
atoms resisting their molecular bond such that the disassociation threshold is 
discounted to and beyond the point of over unity in a MAHG, or Lyne atomic 
furnace sort of scenario.
Fran
From: Teslaalset [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 11:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Iron oxide, hydrogen and a mechanism for 
densification

Bob, forming of molecular Hydrogen is indeed often mentioned by embrittlement 
experts, but imagine what would happen when sufficient UDH inside metal 
lattices would be activated.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Bob Higgins 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
My understanding of at least the conventional thinking of hydrogen 
embrittlement of irons has to do with internal dislocations and vacancies in 
the iron.  The hydrogen can penetrated iron in its neutral monatomic form but 
cannot as H2.  When the hydrogen gets loaded into the iron as a monatomic 
species and encounters a void/dislocation/vacancy, it may hang around in there 
long enough for it to encounter another monatomic hydrogen and then it forms an 
H2 molecule.  The H2 molecule cannot escape.  Eventually more and more H2 
molecules are formed in the void and it becomes high pressure, putting a great 
deal of stress on the lattice causing the embrittlement.
In the UHD form, the hydrogen would simply escape from the void; and thus, UHD 
would seem to be counter to that which I think of as embrittlement of iron.

Also, keep in mind that most FexOy catalysts are formed as fine oxide (+ 
alkali) particles that are agglomerated into a larger, but highly porous body.  
These are not like rust on an iron slug.  The whole idea is for H2 to be able 
to breathe through the material.


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 7:50 AM, Teslaalset 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Good point. Embrittlement could indeed be coupled to UHD.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Jones Beene 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Typically, in the production of iron, hematite is reduced using coke or coal… 
almost never with hydrogen. That is because there are known problems with 
hydrogen, besides cost.

The main reason for using carbon is that coal and coke is extremely cheap – and 
it takes a lot of it, but hydrogen when present tends to cause “hydrogen 
embrittlement” in iron, which could be related to UDH. In fact, coke is used 
instead of coal because it has no hydrogen content.

Embrittlement, in severe cases is related to long time exposure to hydrogen, 
and this could indicate that some of the damage is being caused by UDH, as it 
densifies and penetrates. IOW, any hydrogen exposure to iron causes problems – 
and the longer the exposure, the worse the problem.

From: Teslaalset


>  wouldn't that have caused numeral problems at traditional production of 
> magnetite using 3Fe2O3 + H2 → 2Fe3O4 +H2O, assuming UDH can be made in a 
> similar manner ? Holmlid indicated in one of his papers that UDH can be 
> formed as well using Shell 105 catalyst.

The “leap of faith” and it is large… is that in a matrix of iron-oxide, loaded 
with pressurized deuterium which is absorbed (and is bosonic) there will be an 
continuous oscillation and change in volume of the nanopores, when hematite 
changes to magnetite and back again – and this oscillation will create shock 
waves which are comparable at that small geometry, to what Holmlid sees with 
laser pulses. These would occur at IR frequencies in a heated pressure vessel, 
which is also magnetized. Because of the IR, there could be a plasmonic effect.

The nano shock waves would be combined with large changes in local magnetism, 
as the phase shifts from ferromagnetic ordering to antiferromagnetic rapidly. 
There is likely to be a contribution from DCE – the dynamical Casimir effect.



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