In trying to find out what the phenomenon is called – the one that Hamdi refers to – the concept of “hysteresis drag” comes up - and the concept of a “hysteresis drag cup output device” came up in a patent.
https://www.google.com/patents/US4885489 This would be relevant if the magnetic field from one source (as distinct field “lines”) operates as a deformable material which couples to field lines of another source in various ways… possibly including “negative hysteresis” and/or rate-dependent negative hysteresis. A characteristic of a deformable material such that the energy of deformation is greater than the energy of recovery. The rubber compound in a tire exhibits positive hysteresis. As the tire rotates under the weight of the vehicle, it experiences repeated cycles of deformation and recovery, and it dissipates the hysteresis energy loss as heat. Hysteresis is the main cause of energy loss associated with rolling resistance and is attributed to the viscoelastic characteristics of the rubber. Negative hysteresis, as the name suggests, could violate CoE if it is shown to occur but in the demo, the input is apparently much higher than the output. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysteresis At any rate, a test of From: H Ucar Apperently an direct interaction causing counterwise rotation which not consume energy conflict with COE. This is similar to a case of a motorcyle accelerate on a freely rotating circular track causing the track rotate backward due to Newton's 3rd law. Even the motorcyle does not accelerates the air resistance is transmitted to the track by the wheels and continue to push it back. -------- Counterwise rotation in this case is an anomaly from engineering point of view where there is no friction and no rigid constraints, although vibrations are sources of all sort of weird things hard to model. For example rogue waves has been never predicted and still no good model exists. Even it may be a link between LENR and rogue wave mechanism. BTW, I uploaded a video of another realization of this cw spinning experiment at <https://youtu.be/-XKbRrea-CA> https://youtu.be/-XKbRrea-CA ------ Original message------ From: Vibrator ! Thanks for the updates and clarifications, i'd inferred incorrectly that the samples were only suspended from below and that the reason for posting was anomolous levitation... having now watched the series on YT everything's clear. If you followed the original whipmag discussions, i concluded that Al was cruelly playing OC (OverConfident was the original designer) - there were only two possibilities; either a hidden pulse coil or an inadvertent Orbo replication. Neos have near-infinitessimal Sv, so it seems unlikely that the relative velocity between rotor and stator was high enough to be affected by the response freqs of the magents. Others (including myself) tested identical magnet grades across wider speed ranges without detecting any anomalies. This isn't a conclusive dismissal, but the likelihood that he had a passive temporal asymmetry (the only viable means of genuine energy gain) is IMHO almost nil. Perhaps most tellingly, Al himself always denied OU, in spite of the acceleration, instead proffering nonsensical appeals to tribolectric effects, and other guff.. it is inarguable that gain occurred, he knows what energy is, so the absolute refusal to acknowedge OU can only be construed one way, as far as i'm concerned; it was a little chest-beating display to indulge his pathoskeptic hu mour. OC sadly became terminally ill not long after, so i hope Al did the decent thing while he still had time.. The "gearwise" and "counter-gearwise" neologisms were about his only redeeming contributions, but having established himself as a manipulative cynic i wouldn't trust a further word out of his mouth... But whatever the inspirations, you're obviously doing genuine work and taking things forward, with a neat tracking solution too! I'll have to read up on your reasearch when i get time.. On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 3:29 AM, H Ucar < <mailto:jjam...@gmail.com> jjam...@gmail.com> wrote: This is true if diametrically polarised magnets are placed side by side as gears. Al (of whipmag) termed this config as 'gearwise' and the case of magnets spinning in same direction as 'counter gearwise'. He hed obtained cgw with a composite magnet assembly apperently self running. I had obtained cgw with two diametrically polar. magnets and I recall I reported on vortex. But on this floating magnet setup magnets spin axes are nearly aligned so not simply a gear like mechanism. >Vibrator ! Tue, 22 Mar 2016 17:08:37 -0700 >(ETA. counterclockwise synch is interesting and also easily replicable, at >least in diametrically magnetised rotors, Again though, if this is an axially >polarised levitation then this too is anomolous. Have to say, everything's >pointing to diametric polarisation - alternatig fields, so Earnshaw doesn't >apply, but the combination of levitation and counter-rotation is still cool.. >would make for a neat executive toy..) Yes, I think it is cool invention too, but more interested to me the applicability of this bound state mechanism in particle physics. See my eariler submissions in vortex on this subject.
