On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jed--
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> You noted that:
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> THE AGREEMENT DOES NOT REQUIRE PRODUCING 50 TIME THE INPUT ENERGY.
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If the COP is less than four, the amount paid is reduced proportionately.
So a COP of 1,1 could still make Rossi money.

Jed or another could negotiate the COP down but by how much is the
question. 50 is really high to come down from.

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> *From:* Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 14, 2016 5:54 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:LENR and the feline nature of the E-Cat
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> Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Jed States:
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>> "If the ERV say in court that he thinks the terms were met, he should
>> pack his bags and take the first airplane for Italy as soon as he leaves
>> the stand, to avoid being arrested for perjury and fraud."
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>> This judgement seems to be very harsh, cruel, damaging, and severe. This
>> statement causes me to wonder what the basis of this hostile feeling about
>> a complete stranger comes from. There is no case made to support this
>> reaction and no logic that leads to it.
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> Yes there is a case to be made for this, but you have not yet seen it. You
> will have to wait to see what I.H. presents before you can judge.
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> Think about it for a moment. Rossi says the machine is producing 50 times
> input. I.H. says it is producing no heat. One of them has to be drastically
> wrong. Completely, utterly mistaken, and grossly incompetent. Or, perhaps,
> fraudulent. There is no middle ground here.
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> As you know, I think I.H. is right and Rossi is wrong, based on what I
> know of the calorimetry. Therefore, I think Penon is either stupid or he is
> taking part in a fraud. I cannot tell which it is. Either way, he will be
> in trouble if he says it works, because any licensed HVAC engineer they put
> on the stand will have to testify that Penon is drastically wrong. Unless
> that engineer is willing to lose his license, he or she will have to say
> that. Rossi and Penon will be in trouble whether they are sincere or not.
> They will look bad. The authorities will suspect they are engaged in a
> fraud if they testify to something that every genuine expert says cannot be
> true.
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>> As far as my opinion on the law that applies in this case, I simply want
>> to go on the record with an opinion based on logic and research.
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> This is about calorimetry. No information about the calorimetry has been
> released. There is no record for you to go on, and nothing for you to
> research. There is nothing for you apply logic to. You cannot do
> calorimetry by ESP. You have to look at actual facts. All of the "facts"
> you have presented here are either irrelevant or made up and false.
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>> How you reach your feelings appears to be based on hearsay from one of
>> the parties in this dispute.
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> Several parties, with good confirmation.
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>> You seem to be inured to the self serving motives that might produce this
>> information from such people.
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> I do not think there is any motivation for I.H. to throw away $11 million
> for no reason. If they thought it worked, they would pay for it.
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> - Jed
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