Axil,
Have you not seen Rossi's patent?
It doesn't even mention LENR and protects very little.
AA

On 2/18/2017 6:08 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
Rossi's IP is protected by a patent so he is covered. It is worthwhile to verify that that patent is valid.

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 6:05 PM, a.ashfield <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Axil,
    Going into the experiment with the idea of proving doesn't work
    reminds me of MIT and Pons & Fleischmann.
    What happens if the experiment did work?  Then IH would have given
    away Rossi's IP for nothing and stripped Rossi of what little
    protection he does have.
    AA


    On 2/18/2017 5:55 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
    Brian Ahern would want to verify that Rossi's IP is a fraud as a
    statement of verified fact. IH et al wound want to verify their
    assertion that Rossi's IP does not work. If IH is telling truth
    that IP is nothing, then they lose nothing related to that IP and
    advance their case against Rossi.

    On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 4:35 PM, a.ashfield
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Axil,
        I don't think it follows that IH is free to do what they want
        with Rossi's IP.  If that were the case why would they have
        agreed to give Rossi $89 million?  Surely his technology, if
        it works, is worth more than $11 million.

        I also thought Brian Ahern had expressed his opinion that
        Rossi never had anything and was just a fraud.  Correct me if
        I'm wrong. If so, why would Brian want to work on it?

        As for facts - I have stated many times that they are not all
        known and we should wait for full information.  It does not
        seem to be a popular view.
        AA



        On 2/18/2017 4:20 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
        There are dozens of well  motivated open source replicators
        of Ross's tech working now including brian Ahern and an
        additional hundreds that will enter the field as soon as
        Rossi's tech is made available. I am disgusted with all the
        innuendo that is involved in the Rossi tech issue. It will
        be refreshing to deal with FACTS that can be verified or
        disproved by research. IH paid for that IP and it is theirs
        to do with it as they see fit. The licence agreement no
        longer is binding. LET US HAVE THE FACTS AND NOTHING BUT THE
        FACTS.

        On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 3:44 PM, a.ashfield
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Axil,
            Apart from some of that information being proprietary it
            doesn't help to have this run by avowed enemies.
            Remember how MIT and CalTec bodged the replication of
            Pons & Fleischmann?

            AA


            On 2/18/2017 2:53 PM, Axil Axil wrote:
            IH would be well served to release all the Rossi
            provided INFO involving the Rossi reaction to the open
            source community and Brian Ahern as its most
            prominent member**to allow that community to run tests
            to see if Rossi's technology is a fraud. This
            verification would support IH in their claims about Rossi.

            Sunshine is the best disinfectant.

            On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 7:44 AM, Brian Ahern
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I was watching a program about O.J. Simpson and how
                he had a loyal following. I see parallels to
                Rossi's loyal following.


                "Feed a cold and starve a fever;

                argue with no true believer."


                It is a waste of effort to expect the citizens of
                Planet Rossi to abandon their hero. He is too
                charismatic and has hypnotized a  group by
                appealing to their hopes and dreams of clean energy.

                It is futile to expect logic and evidence will be
                able to de-program the earnest followers.

                
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                *From:* a.ashfield <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>>
                *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 8:11 PM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:How to overestimate water flux
                by wrongly positioning an instrument
                That is certainly one way of avoiding answering the
                questions I asked.
                You say you have "all the data."  It seems very
                unlikely that IH has all Rossi's data and so how
                would you get it?

                AA

                On 2/17/2017 6:18 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
                a.ashfield <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    I have every reason to doubt it. Saying that
                    you have the piping drawing but refuse to
                    publish it doesn't hold water.


                Okay, so you are saying I am a liar. Got it. I
                will block any further messages from you.

                Done and done.

                - Jed










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