Papp never wanted to manufacture his invention that was too much work and aggravation. His living involved getting money from backers using a function invention as bait. He used his invention to extract capital from people to finance a good life in Florida.
This retirement strategy could be what Rossi wants to do. Time will tell. But Rossi does not seem to be the type that avoids aggravation; instead, he seems to thrive in that condition. If Rossi proceeds to manufacturing his product, then Rossi is the real deal. This final juncture in the Rossi saga is the judgment point about Rossi for me. On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Brian Ahern <ahern_br...@msn.com> wrote: > So now we rely on conspiracy theories when the technology cannot be made > to work. > > > Occam's Razor would suggest an inability of the inventor, not his > government agents acting ill. > > > Over 90% of folks who believe in UFOs also subscribe to conspiracy > theories. They need to to explain the 100% lack of any UFO evidence. > > > My guess is that Rossi supporters are also UFO buffs. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* bobcook39...@hotmail.com <bobcook39...@hotmail.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:25 PM > *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation > > > MORE INFORMATION: > > > > http://worldnpa.org/abstracts/abstracts_paperlink_6835.pdf > > The Revolutionary Plasma Power Technology of Josef Papp > <http://worldnpa.org/abstracts/abstracts_paperlink_6835.pdf> > worldnpa.org > The Revolutionary Plasma Power Technology of Josef Papp Barry Springer NPA > Web Seminar November 24, 2012 Updated April 7, 2013 > > > > > It seems the FBI raided the Company developing the Papp engine in 2013 and > the Government took the technology in to the dark IMHO. > > > > TOO BAD. > > > > I wonder if the company has been charged with a crime? Or merely given an > order curtailing their ability to communicate—i.e., speak. They (the real > people affected) should check with the ACLU. > > > > The reported raid sounds typical of a shady attempt to curtail R&D. > > > > Bob Cook > > > > > *Subject: *RE: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation > > > > The following may help understanding: > > > > http://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/PappEngine-Valone.pdf > > > > Bob Cook > > *From: *Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > *Sent: *Monday, July 24, 2017 12:05 PM > *To: *vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:The Papp engine and cavitation > > > > · One of the big mysteries of the Papp engine is understanding the > Papp engine fuel preparation device. What does that device do and why is it > important to the function of the Papp engine? All the Papp engine > replicators have discounted the need to use this fuel prep device and try > to get the Papp engine to work without prepared fuel. Papp knew that > prepared fuel was critically important to getting the engine to work. Three > months before his death in 1989, Papp destroyed all the fuel he had > prepared so that no one could ever get his engine to work ever again. The > engine laid useless inside his workshop. That engine was his alone forever > and could never be shared with the world. > > > > The cavitation theory of the Papp engine provides the reason why fuel > preparation is essential. A intense shock wave is required to form the > ultra dense crystal nature of the fuel in the alternate paired cylinder. > Without that shockwave, active fuel cannot be formed. The fuel preparation > device produced ultra dense water and latter in the fuel to act as a > bootstrap or initial plasma shock wave so that cavitation could occur in > the paired cylinder. Without that first shock wave, recurring fuel > formation does not begin in the alternate cylinder when the compression of > the water vapor/gas is underway. > > > > Papp used this prepared fuel to disintegrate a 5/8 inch stainless steel > pipe when he demoed his Papp common in the desert. > > > > [image: Joseph-Papp-Cannon-1.jpg] > <https://www.lenr-forum.com/image-proxy/?key=998716491dd35bfa8775404889e158043cfdbac45986a6962e9cadbf31078490-aHR0cDovL3d3dy5hbWVyaWNhbmFudGlncmF2aXR5LmNvbS93cC1jb250ZW50L3VwbG9hZHMvMjAxMi8wOS9Kb3NlcGgtUGFwcC1DYW5ub24tMS5qcGc%3D> > > o Edit > <https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5306-the-papp-engine-and-cavitation/?postID=66493> > > o > > o > > · > > > > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am beginning to understand that the Papp engine was a cavitation based > device. > > > > In the 1960's Papp used water for his fuel. Papp must have produced water > crystals in the compression part of the cylinder cycle where the volume of > the cylinder was decreasing. During this increasing pressure environment > inside the cylinder, cavitation bubbles must have formed thereby producing > ultra dense water crystals. > > > > For example, some larger diesel engines suffer from cavitation due to > high compression and undersized cylinder walls. Vibrations of the > cylinder wall induce alternating low and high pressure in the coolant against > the cylinder wall. The result is pitting of the cylinder wall, which will > eventually let cooling fluid leak into the cylinder and combustion gases > to leak into the coolant. > > > > To stop the cavitation based erosion of the cylinder walls and the > subsequent loss of compression over time, Papp went to noble gases which > produce ultra dense noble gas crystals during the compression stage of the > cylinder cycle but the formation of ultra dense noble gas crystals did not > damage the cylinder walls. > > > > When Papp fired a spark, the ultra dense noble gas crystals exploded as > happens in the Holmlid experiment when the ultra dense hydrogen cycltals > produce atomic particle fragments that move outward at 3/4 the speed of > light. Currently, Holmlid does not capture that huge amount of energy > inherent to his expanding plasma. > > > > To utilize the energy in the expanding plasma, Holmlid might capture that > nuclear powered expanding plasma as Papp once did in an engine design using > ultra dense hydrogen as fuel. > > > > > > >
