I do not consider Thermodynamics addresses the conservation of angular momentum.

In quantum mechanics per Planck  spin is a quantized parameter which exists in 
integral multiples of h/2pie (Planck’s constant divided by 2 pie) in  coherent 

In primary particles it does not change as long as they remain primary 
particles.  For example electrons and positrons always have the same absolute 
spin and angular momentum, although one is minus and one is plus  ,  However. 
When they get close together they change into two photons each with one quanta 
of spin and angular momentum (a net 0 angular momentum given their respective 
polarizations established by the direction of their spin vector.)

As far as I know, spin was not  a concept established at the time TD was 
formulated as a scientific theory.  I do not consider it was left out on 
purpose.  However, TD uses an energy term, enthalpy, which includes particle 
kinetic energy as in gases and liquids and phonic energy associated in QM’s  
with molecular and nuclear “orbital” spin and angular momentum, which IMHO both 
 contribute to the heat (enthalpy) of a closed system.

  (Nuclear orbital spin is a debated concept and may not entail “orbits” of 
sub-nuclear particles,)  The nuclear models that integrate the energy 
associated with spin are fuzzy at best IMHO.

The models that take nuclear potential and kinetic energy (total energy) and 
transform it into phonic spin energy in crystals and other condensed matter as 
enthalpy are just as fuzzy.   That’s why LENR is not accepted by many 
physicists, since there is no theory they understand and does not contradict 
the existing “standard theory”.

Bob Cook

From: Chris Zell<>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magnetic Spin Vortex

Angular momentum is a vector quantity and in QM has kinetic energy associated 
with it.

Is angular momentum in particles conservative?  Does it violate laws of 
thermodynamics?  Is spin left out of conservative formulas because it 
unbalances the results?

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