And here:

https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg105019.html

On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 1:50 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
> bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2016/0118144.html
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>> The following is taken from the link noted above:
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> Hey, Jones, we've been here before:
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> https://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg102870.html
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