I wonder if "the  fervent practice of conflation" means that the fusion
meme that has been the mainstay of LENR theory for so long should now be
retooled to somehow  fit into an as of yet unfathomable  understanding of
the LION reactor meltdown. Russ is among those who are clearly confused by
the LION reactor meltdown. Here is his analysis as follows:

Melting Miasma - The intact Kanthal wire is a witness to the temperature
not reaching the melting point of kanthal which is listed as being 1500 C.
The alumina block melts above 2000 C, the quartz melts at just under 1700
C. So if the quartz melted likely the kanthal which was in contact with the
quartz might be expected to melt, not seen. Surely the alumina foam which
was outside of the quartz melting at 2000 C would not 'melt' without the
intervening kanthal showing melting which would occur at 1500 C. If during
the oxidation of the copper that is clearly apparent, that very hot copper
oxidation process was capable of perhaps breaking the quartz and that
copper oxide invaded the surrounding materials it might well have bonding
with all. Copper oxide melts at 1326 C. Copper melts at 1085 C. Nickel
melts at 1455 C, don't forget the tiny 2.5 mm diameter 10 micron thick
nickel pads with the diamonds attached to them that are the purported fuel
are clearly seen and did NOT melt. Nor did the stainless steel bolt that
plugged the reactor tube, stainless steels melt between 1400-1500 C
depending on the alloy.

All theses known materials and melting points bear witness to many
temperatures that might have been reached in the hot 'reaction' zone. In
the 'dummy' test runs conducted at Alan's, the maker of the tube furnace
test bed, at 1000 C. in these dummy runs without any anomalous fuels, aka
the nickel diamond discs, the aggressive hot chemistry of the copper oxide
and is very clearly seen. It has fused/bonded itself to the quartz for
example. The silver foil that underlaid the copper wire winding at the
distal end has a melting point 961 C, is apparent this temperature was
reached as the silver appears to have moved by capillary action into the
copper/copper oxide material and also appears to have been an effective
brazing metal on the quartz, something it is known to do in common practice
when making metal seals on quartz lab wear. All, or almost all, the copper
was converted to copper oxide at 1000 C, this was not the case in a
duplicate test at 800 C where considerable of the copper wire remained as
metal though it was oxidized on the surface. The replication with power and
thermal data may tell the tale, patience is going to be required before we
might make sense of this miasma. Hopefully no one reports seeing the 'face
of Jesus' in the miasma before the replication and more extensive data is
in hand, that would really confuse matters.

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Russ <russ.geo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What’s to discuss other than perhaps something about the diagnostic incite
> offered by fervent practice of conflation.
> *From:* Alberto De Souza [mailto:alberto.investi...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:57 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* [Vo]:LION experiments
> This forum is rather silent about the LION experiments, currently being
> examined by MFMP... Anyone care to comment?
> https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5518-mfmp-lfh-
> lion2-100-replication-well-beyond-lion1/?postID=81031#post81031

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