Has anyone looked at the impact of fracking on the data? Heating is a major
energy sink and the difference in gas vs electric heating costs (even with
heat pumps) could be a major driver in new builds.

Andrew
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On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:

> JonesBeene <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Not to mention the electric car. Tesla alone “should have” increased the
>> demand for electrical power. This has not happened.
>>
>
> I have not looked at the numbers, but I kind of doubt that Tesla alone
> could have a measurable effect. Perhaps Tesla + Leaf + plug-in hybrids
> could. Tesla has sold 250,000 cars I think. That sounds like a lot but
> electric cars do not consume much electricity. About as much as a large air
> conditioner, I think. 250,000 air conditioners more or less would not have
> a measurable impact on U.S. consumption.
>
> From what I have seen, the major factors in reduced consumption are, from
> big to small:
>
> Increased efficiency, especially in things like lighting (illumination),
> HVAC equipment, refrigerators, and Energy Star compliant equipment. (The
> Energy Star program is completely voluntary -- it just gives manufacturers
> bragging rights with a sticker they put on equipment. But it is highly
> popular with the public and it has had a large impact, which I suppose is
> why the Trump administration want to kill it.)
>
> Large scale private cogeneration with natural gas, especially in large
> buildings, campuses factories and so no. This is more common in Japan, I
> think, but it is catching on in the U.S.
>
> "Distributed" solar, a.k.a. small scale solar photovoltaic. That is,
> small scale PV solar, on roofs, for example. Large scale solar is done by
> power companies so it does not reduce grid power consumption. It resembles
> wind turbine power generated by power companies. Small scale solar is
> having a big impact in Hawaii. The power companies are in bad shape because
> of it. But it is not having an impact elsewhere as far as I know. The Trump
> administration and the power companies are determined to keep it from
> having an impact, for example, by charging customers who have their own
> solar exorbitant amounts for getting any grid power at all to supplement it.
>
> I may have that wrong. That was the situation a few years ago. The EIA is
> the place to go to get information on things like this. See:
>
> https://www.eia.gov/
>
> Distributed solar began to show up in the stats, just above the noise
> level, in 2015:
>
> https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=23972
>
> Here is net generation of electricity from all sources, distributed and
> grid:
>
> https://www.eia.gov/electricity/data/browser/
>
> You can play around with this graph in many ways to see what is happening.
> Change it to years to smooth out seasonal fluctuations. You can see solar
> (bottom teal line) *just beginning* to leave the noise level in 2014. In
> 2017 4Q small scale solar photovoltaic it is 1,476 thousand megawatt hours.
> Total generation was 345,939, so that's 0.4%.
>
> In the right-hand box, select "Net generation by energy source: electric
> utilities." You do not see a dramatic reduction. Seasonal variation makes
> it hard to spot. Try the Annual version, "Index to start as value." That
> does show a distinct decline:
>
> https://www.eia.gov/electricity/data/browser/#/topic/0?agg=2,0,1&fuel=vvg&;
> geo=g&sec=8&linechart=ELEC.GEN.ALL-US-1.A~ELEC.GEN.COW-
> US-1.A~ELEC.GEN.NG-US-1.A~ELEC.GEN.NUC-US-1.A~ELEC.GEN.
> HYC-US-1.A&columnchart=ELEC.GEN.ALL-US-1.A~ELEC.GEN.COW-
> US-1.A~ELEC.GEN.NG-US-1.A~ELEC.GEN.NUC-US-1.A~ELEC.GEN.
> HYC-US-1.A&map=ELEC.GEN.ALL-US-1.A&freq=A&chartindexed=2&
> ctype=linechart&ltype=pin&rtype=s&maptype=0&rse=0&pin=
>
> ("United States: all fuels (utility-scale)" blue line goes below -250,000)
>
> - Jed
>
>

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