Jones—

I agree with you.  I did not catch the meaning of the “wall” in your discussion 
 with Jack.  I agree that it should be easy to measure electrical AC energy 
consumed by  the pulse generator.

I was focusing on the question of energy into the reactor introduced by the 
pulse  for comparison with  energy out, over and above that coming out.

I also find it hard to believe that the folks funding the testing did not 
understand the losses of energy  in the pulse generator, which were not 
contributing to stimulation of the reactor   to release potential energy 
whatever that source might be.

Bob Cook



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From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:48:58 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast

bobcook wrote:

> You say it is easy to measure pulsed power at the wall of the Godes reactor 
> and suggest the measurements were accomplished, but covered up... You should 
> suggest a method to do this “easy” measurement.

Bob,

Apparently my main underlying assumption - which is apparently reversed from 
yours - is that the energy expended to create the special pulses MUST BE 
included as part of the input - even if it is much higher than what is actually 
contained in the pulses when they appear at the reactor. There is no free lunch 
obtainable from comparing low grade power (heat) to extremely high grade power 
(pulsed charges).

For instance if pulse creation expends 50% more energy than grid AC - but is 
absolutely required for success, then one cannot logically ignore the loss and 
claim OU when much or all of the gain is required to make the pulses initially. 
IOW - one cannot assert that the net energy of producing a complex waveform 
should not also include all of the losses.

High grade power is special - very special, and the losses have to included to 
calculate net gain.

Thereforw to answer your question specifically, anyone can buy a simple AC 
wattmeter from Amazon for 20 bucks to do the job of ascertaining real input 
power from the grid. It is beyond belief to suggest that this was not done.

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