Jones— I agree with you. I did not catch the meaning of the “wall” in your discussion with Jack. I agree that it should be easy to measure electrical AC energy consumed by the pulse generator.
I was focusing on the question of energy into the reactor introduced by the pulse for comparison with energy out, over and above that coming out. I also find it hard to believe that the folks funding the testing did not understand the losses of energy in the pulse generator, which were not contributing to stimulation of the reactor to release potential energy whatever that source might be. Bob Cook ________________________________ From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:48:58 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Robert Godes podcast bobcook wrote: > You say it is easy to measure pulsed power at the wall of the Godes reactor > and suggest the measurements were accomplished, but covered up... You should > suggest a method to do this “easy” measurement. Bob, Apparently my main underlying assumption - which is apparently reversed from yours - is that the energy expended to create the special pulses MUST BE included as part of the input - even if it is much higher than what is actually contained in the pulses when they appear at the reactor. There is no free lunch obtainable from comparing low grade power (heat) to extremely high grade power (pulsed charges). For instance if pulse creation expends 50% more energy than grid AC - but is absolutely required for success, then one cannot logically ignore the loss and claim OU when much or all of the gain is required to make the pulses initially. IOW - one cannot assert that the net energy of producing a complex waveform should not also include all of the losses. High grade power is special - very special, and the losses have to included to calculate net gain. Thereforw to answer your question specifically, anyone can buy a simple AC wattmeter from Amazon for 20 bucks to do the job of ascertaining real input power from the grid. It is beyond belief to suggest that this was not done.