Soap stings my eyes and makes me choke when I inhale it :-)
On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 07:50:34 PM UTC, ChemE Stewart <cheme...@gmail.com> wrote: How about just wash with soap :) On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:32 PM Michael Foster <mf...@yahoo.com> wrote: Yes, 254 nm is an excellent virus killer. However, unlike 222 nm, long term exposure to 254 nm can cause damage to the eyes and skin. As Jonathan Berry points out 222 nm won't even penetrate the water film on your eyes. I still like my idea of a baseball cap with a small xenon chloride excimer bulb attached to the underside of the bill. Sounds silly, sort of "Tom Swift and his Amazing Virus Killing Hat", but it might be more effective than masks. As long as the visible wavelengths can be filtered out to keep the light from being annoying, it could kill the viruses before being inhaled and also from penetrating through the eyes. I'd much rather wear such a contraption than a mask. On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 05:40:09 PM UTC, Terry Blanton <hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote: UVGI uses 254 nm...readily available. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4699414/ https://smile.amazon.com/Type-watt-UV-C-Germicidal-Replacement/dp/B007NW9WFW On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:21 PM Jonathan Berry <jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote: The harm from the virus is significant and lasting for many even if it does not kill.Also Corona viruses, well there has never been a successful vaccine for a corona virus and immunity seems not to be lasting. Indeed about a 3rd of those who have had it seem not to have notable levels of antibodies. So herd immunity is really untenable, it needs to be stopped, not easy, but the only way it's not just going to keep on hitting humanity again and again with what seem to be at the most optimistic to be a roughly 1% fatality rate. I have found two US manufacturers of 222nm bulbs, not sure though that either have enough output. Good to know it's krypton chloride, wasn't aware. On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 04:35, Michael Foster <mf...@yahoo.com> wrote: This is a really good idea. Fortunately, the U.S. can supply its own krypton. 222 nm lamps are krypton chloride excimer bulbs. Maybe we can wise up and make the lamps in the United States. I doubt that any are made here now. I know this sounds ridiculous at the moment, but what if a baseball cap could be made with a small excimer lamp on the under side of the bill. This certainly isn't impossible what with all the really compact high voltage supplies that are made now. I doubt if making large numbers of excimer bulbs would have much of an effect on the price of krypton as rather large amounts are used in double pane windows at near atmospheric pressure. The krypton chloride bulbs, conversely, use small amounts a low pressure. OTOH, all of this prevention simply delays people being exposed to the virus and thus delaying the herd immunity. The original premise of this absurd lock down was to "flatten the curve" and prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. This exercise in totalitarian despotism was based on faulty computer models like most of our predictions of doom lately. The overall death rate in the U.S. is down somewhat from previous years, meaning that the people who supposedly succumbed to the Wuhan virus would probably have died of something else in the same time period. Given the practice of reporting deaths of the elderly as from covid19 whether or not that was the known cause no doubt inflates the numbers substantially. Influenza deaths will probably exceed the deaths caused by the corona virus this year. This is just a guess on my part, probably more accurate that the latest computer models. But we all just love to panic don't we? On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:10:48 PM UTC, Jonathan Berry <jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote: You are sort of missing the point though! The point is that 222nm UVC light kills the virus (however ironic that might be with HV corona emitting UV) and this 222nm UV is safe, not harmful! It doesn't even get through to live skin cells or even through the water film on your eye. But it destroys the virus in the air and on surfaces. On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 08:41, Jürg Wyttenbach <ju...@datamart.ch> wrote: Very good new from California. https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/ only 1 out of 50 infected does get symptoms!!! Fairly consistent research results showing increased rate of leukemias near high voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR can cause it. You should not live to close to such transmission lines due to high magnetic fields. Leukemia (in children) is also slightly increased in a radius up to 20 miles from a nuclear plant. J.W. Am 18.04.20 um 21:17 schrieb ChemE Stewart: Damp conditions, dew buildup, pollution and damage to insulators/lines all reduce the local breakdown voltage. The strong electric field is ionizing N2 and O2 in the air and producing ozone and NOx which by themselves are not healthy long term. The ionization is also releasing broad spectrum electromagnetic pollution from high frequency UVc down to low frequency radio noise. It is most likely the high frequency UV range doing the cellular damage over time nearby. Fairly consistent research results showing increased rate of leukemias near high voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR can cause it. I expect it is the high frequency UV spectrum and it is dependent upon local weather and line conditions. https://www.webmd.com/cancer/lymphoma/news/20050602/child-leukemia-again-linked-to-power-lines If special UVc cameras are detecting the radiation that implies it is reaching the lens/ground & biology https://youtu.be/NsSXjFMHIuU https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8727300 On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:11 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote: I had a friend who lived for 30 years with high voltage transmission lines at the edge of his property in Spokane County. He died about 6 or 7 years ago from two separate cancers. His son who lived with him in his home (30 years his junior) also died of cancer within a month of his father. All the cancers were of different types. My friend would comment how the lines would crackle in humid conditions. I always assumed it was steam explosions of small water droplets. Thus a strange noise associated with transmission lines may also deter the movement of large animals. Bob Cook Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: ChemE Stewart Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:23 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one... Time elapse UV emissions from high voltage transmission lines. https://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/763-power-lines-in-uv/ Broad spectrum UV light pollution is a common occurrence on exposed high voltage systems and unhealthy long term to biology at much of the UVA,UVB and UVC range Fortunately it only occurs when air is damp, pollution builds up on lines/insulators, insulators/lines are cracked/damaged, or bird crap...which is much of the time Scares the shit out of reindeer also and has led to Santa re-routing delivery routes. https://slate.com/technology/2014/03/power-lines-and-animals-flashing-uv-light-scares-reindeer.html On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:34 AM Jonathan Berry <jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote: Solution, 222nm UVC light to sterilize the air, surfaces, skin, masks, clothing in supermarkets, on the street, everywhere! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs -- Jürg Wyttenbach Bifangstr.22 8910 Affoltern a.A. 044 760 14 18 079 246 36 06
