Terry wrote:
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frederick Sparber
>
> In trying to ascertain my own sanity, if the engine combustion process
> is normal and using the 4.8E8 joule 4 gallon gasoline equivalent
> in a 2 hour (7200 second) "50 mph 100 mile trip" it begs the question
> of how much free "auto-electrolysis" would be occurring in the
> 4 compartment-cell ~ 4000 square centimeter Joe Cell figuring
> 2.5 eV (4.0E-19 joule per H-OH generated and recombined in the engine
> combustion process.
>
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> Are you talking about Klein?  The test involved combining H2 + O2 gas 
> WITH gasoline:
Yep, Klein's"it ain't Brown's gas" and the Joe Cell.   :-)
>
> http://www.hytechapps.com/applications/HHOStest-102103.htm
>

> T'aint nothin' new here.  JPL did this in 1974:
>
I'm not to impressed with JPL's 1970s Hydrogen "Expertise" after they
came to the rescue of farmers near Pecos Texas when Natural Gas prices
skyrocketed overnight they built an electricity powered hydrogen plant that
was going to produce cheap fuel at several times the cost of the inflated 
natural gas price. Unfortunately it exploded.
The bank that was sweating ending up with empty farmland heard of our
biomass work 
where 40 acres of "biocrop" would support the energy required for 640 acres
contacted us.
At the time our figures showed that switching to Diesel was the best near
term option
until the Texas Bush Dynasty finished opening up the Midland-Odessa oil-gas
fields
down the road.  :-)

It seems that there is a cycle where all of the energy self sufficiency
problems are
solved then put on the back burned until a new generation or two of
engineers come
along and solve the problem all over again.  

Fred

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_fuel_injection
>
> Terry
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