Michel Jullian wrote:
>
> BTW Fred, have you given some thought to our enthalpy vs Gibbs
controversy? 
> Which energy can be recovered from the reaction below do you think, the 
> enthalpy change or the Gibbs free energy change?
>
Is that a trick question, Michel? 

The H-H bond is 498 Kjoule/mole the same as the O-O bond and the O-H bond..
Hence overall,  H-H + O-O ---->  H-O-H   + O  nets Zip Gibbs or Enthalpy.
But, O + Fe ---> Fe-O:  Fe-O (390 KJ/mole) minus  Fe-Fe (100 KJ/Mole)
equals a Gibbs Free Energy of 390-100 = 290 KJ when you oxidize iron
with O radicals.  :-)

OTOH,  H-O-H  2 x 498 KJ/Mole + Ni ----> NiO  (382 KJ/mole) +
H-H = 498 - 382 =  116 KJ/mole. Easy to Compare Enthalpy
with the Ellingham (enthalpy) Diagrams.

http://www.chem.mtu.edu/skkawatr/Ellingham.pdf

Fred.
> 
> Michel
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frederick Sparber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "vortex-l" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 4:52 PM
> Subject: Re: Free Radical Chain Reactions
>
>
> > Actually  2 H2 + O2 ----> 2 H2O has about 14  reaction steps.
> >
> > http://www.cheresources.com/reactionkinetics3.shtml
> >
> > "Another important consideration is the formation of chain reactions.
The 
> > basic premise of chain reaction mechanisms is also that free radicals
play 
> > a leading role in the destruction of reactant molecules. The chain 
> > reaction mechanism itself consists of several steps: initiation, 
> > propagation, branching (not always present), and termination. This can
be 
> > illustrated, for certain range of temperature and pressure, by some of
the 
> > reactions in the following Hydrogen oxidation mechanism:"
> >
> > "To summarize, reaction mechanisms can be assembled from elementary 
> > reactions using free radicals as the means for decomposition of the 
> > reactant, and intermediate products. Chain branching reactions, if they 
> > occur, take a very important role in the mechanism as they lead to the 
> > formation of increasing concentrations of radicals. Reaction time and 
> > temperature have a bearing on radical concentration, and the type of 
> > reaction initiating the consumption of the reactant" 
>



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