> Terry wrote: > > What amazes me, Grimer, is that I can't seem to get anyone to even go > see it. A few people will discuss it; but, I have yet to convince > anyone to go with me and help verify the measurements.
Terry, Several months ago, I watched a car crash of discussion threads evolve on the Y! free_energy group between Paul Sprain, his partner and Tom Schum on one side, and most everyone else - led by Dave Howe - on the other. The way that things fizzled out was with Paul disappearing off the group. However, before leaving, both he and his partner claimed that they could run their motor just from a charged cap - with no outside power source. For example, see this post from Paul: ---quote--- >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Apr 06 16:26:39 2006 Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Apparently-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 20637 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2006 23:26:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Apr 2006 23:26:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n19b.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com) (66.163.187.186) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2006 23:26:37 -0000 Received: from [66.163.187.122] by n19.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2006 23:26:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.69.3] by t3.bullet.sc5.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2006 23:26:36 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.81] by t3.bullet.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Apr 2006 23:26:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 23:26:36 -0000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.163.187.186 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 67.191.162.107 From: "metalspiderkiller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: To: davehowe17, EMILIE TEST X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=139802037; y=D5oqnRpUu3WLGd4bEh6iwvbhVrBN_mkWzwTavkSSfWgvi8sG-WmFX9iYbuM X-Yahoo-Profile: metalspiderkiller Jesus Christ you fuc*#^*g people make me nuts! Here it is in a nut shell: THE MOTOR WILL SELF RUN WITH NO OUTSIDE POWER SOURCE. NO MEASUREMENTS NEEDED, NO GUESSING, NO MISTAKES! E.M.I.L.I.E WILL START FROM A FULLY CHARGED 25V 5000uF CAP THEN WILL CONTINUE TO RUN UNTIL YOUR ARE SATISFIED OR 3 HOURS WHICH EVER COMES FIRST. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE THE DEVICE, LOOK UNDERNEATH IT, TEST IT USING YOUR OWN METERS. NO HIDDEN COMPARTMENTS, NOTHING WILL BE OFF LIMITS TO YOU. DO YOU UNDERSTAND? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TEST YOU CAN! This is what I'm claiming! Using NO outside power source! The torque force created by the magnetic field gradient, when converted into electricity will be enough to pulse the electromagnet and allow the rotor magnet to slip by. Sincerely, Harry Paul Sprain ---ends--- Now, things may have changed since then. However, at that time, he was confident in it (effectively) self running. If that still stands, it would make verifing his claims somewhat simpler... [I'm sure you're aware of the msgs that I'm referring to. If not, search Y! free_energy for posts from 'metalspiderkiller' (Sprain) and 'magnetpowerman' (his oppo)] Patrick -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.2/372 - Release Date: 21/06/2006

