> Terry wrote:
>
> What amazes me, Grimer, is that I can't seem to get anyone to even go
> see it.  A few people will discuss it; but, I have yet to convince
> anyone to go with me and help verify the measurements.

Terry,

Several months ago, I watched a car crash of discussion threads evolve on
the Y! free_energy group between Paul Sprain, his partner and Tom Schum on
one side, and most everyone else - led by Dave Howe - on the other.

The way that things fizzled out was with Paul disappearing off the group.

However, before leaving, both he and his partner claimed that they could run
their motor just from a charged cap - with no outside power source.  For
example, see this post from Paul:

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Jesus Christ you fuc*#^*g people make me nuts!

Here it is in a nut shell:

THE MOTOR WILL SELF RUN WITH NO OUTSIDE POWER
SOURCE. NO MEASUREMENTS NEEDED, NO GUESSING, NO
MISTAKES!

E.M.I.L.I.E WILL START FROM A FULLY CHARGED 25V 5000uF CAP
THEN WILL CONTINUE TO RUN UNTIL YOUR ARE SATISFIED OR 3
HOURS WHICH EVER COMES FIRST.
YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE THE DEVICE, LOOK UNDERNEATH
IT, TEST IT USING YOUR OWN METERS. NO HIDDEN
COMPARTMENTS, NOTHING WILL BE OFF LIMITS TO YOU. DO
YOU UNDERSTAND? ANYTHING YOU WANT TO TEST YOU CAN!


This is what I'm claiming!


Using NO outside power source!
The torque force created by the magnetic field gradient, when
converted into electricity will be enough to pulse the electromagnet and
allow the rotor magnet to slip by.




Sincerely,
Harry Paul Sprain
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Now, things may have changed since then.  However, at that time, he was
confident in it (effectively) self running.  If that still stands, it would
make verifing his claims somewhat simpler...

[I'm sure you're aware of the msgs that I'm referring to.  If not, search Y!
free_energy for posts from 'metalspiderkiller' (Sprain) and 'magnetpowerman'
(his oppo)]

Patrick
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