Hi Horace, lots of sensible contributions as usual, I wonder how many of you there are ? ;-) Let's call a truce in our ongoing controversy for a while.
You mention high pressure or high voltage hydrogen loading, do you think you can compete with the ~10^26 atmospheres loading achieved by electrolysis? :-) Speaking of which, your comments on my piccies would be welcome, is the metal-electrolyte interface plausibly modelled at the atomic level do you think? I may have not looked hard enough but I couldn't find any realistic view of the double layer in Google Images, people tend to schematize the hydrated ions as separate entities all right, but the metal surface is always shown as an idealized flat plate whereas in fact its atoms are not smaller than the water molecules (they are of exactly equal size in the case of Palladium incidentally, which may be significant) Michel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Horace Heffner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:35 AM Subject: [Vo]:Deflation Fusion - Thermal Cycling and High Temperature Alloys > Drat #14 of "Deflation Fusion" now includes a new section starting on > page 20, and Figure 5. > > THERMAL CYCLING AND HIGH TEMPERATURE ALLOYS > > A powerful means of orbital stressing is cooling a loaded lattice. > The lattice contracts and applies enormous pressure on the loaded > hydrogen atoms. This approach to orbital stressing has limited > utility for electrolysis loaded cells. However, it may be a great > utility when applied to high temperature cells, which are better > suited for high efficiency energy generation. See Figure 5. > Operating in high temperature gas mode opens up a vast set of > possible cathode materials which are incapable of use at electrolysis > temperatures. High temperature hydrogen adsorption is feasible using > high strength iron, tungsten, molybdenum or other metals or alloys. > Hot operating alloys can also be designed to maximize bond strength, > annealing ability, operating temperature range, and hydrogen loading > as well as helium de-loading characteristics in differing temperature > ranges. This is the probable path for practical cold fusion > development. > > High temperature cells are loaded in gas phase, by high voltage DC > with a high voltage high frequency signal, or microwaves, applied as > well for ionization purposes. The lattice temperature is cycled from > hot, for loading, to less hot, for high stressing heat generation. > Before returning to the hot loading phase, various temperature cycles > might be used to facilitate helium de-loading, and annealing of cracks. > > A simple version of this cell type could merely consist of a hot wire > used as a cathode for gas phase loading and thermal cycling. > Control circuitry would be required to prevent cascade driven current > runaways due to the high electron emission from a hot cathode. A > higher DC voltage can be used in the cold hydrogen compressing phase. > > Using a design similar to Figure 5, the lattice material could be > fully melted between some thermal cycles, possibly with loading > starting in the liquid metal. > > As in Figure 2, a triode configuration can be used to simultaneously > achieve DC loading while applying AC to the lattice to increase > tunneling rates. The AC capability also has use for heating the > lattice for annealing, loading, or other purposes. Similarly to > Figure 2, front side loading and cross-lattice diffusion can be > accomplished using high pressure hydrogen or high voltage gas loading > in a front side compartment, but this limits annealing or melting > possibilities. The source of heat for annealing or melting could be > through the ceramic compartment walls instead of supplied by electrodes. > > > > Horace Heffner > http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/ > > >

