On Aug 27, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Michel Jullian wrote:
Hi Horace, lots of sensible contributions as usual, I wonder how
many of you there are ? ;-) Let's call a truce in our ongoing
controversy for a while.
Sounds good to me. It is mostly only relevant to Figure 1 and
associated text of my little paper anyway.
You mention high pressure or high voltage hydrogen loading, do you
think you can compete with the ~10^26 atmospheres loading achieved
by electrolysis? :-)
I don't think that it is necessary to compete with electrolysis
loading. Consider the fact Iwamura used pressure loading only:
Iwamural et al, “OBSERVATION OF LOW ENERGY NUCLEAR REACTIONS INDUCED
BY D2 GAS PERMEATION THROUGH PD COMPLEXES”,The Ninth International
Conference on Cold Fusion, 2002. Beijing, China: Tsinghua University,
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYobservatioa.pdf
Iwamural et al, “OBSERVATION OF LOW ENERGY NUCLEAR REACTIONS INDUCED
BY D2 GAS PERMEATION THROUGH PD COMPLEXES”,The Eleventh International
Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science, 2004. Marseille,
Francehttp://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/IwamuraYobservatiob.pdf
and Dufour (stunningly!) used only the tiny amount of hydrogen
already in the Uranium matrix:
Dufour, J., et al.,”EXPERIMENTAL OBSERVATION OF NUCLEAR REACTIONS IN
PALLADIUM AND URANIUM — POSSIBLE EXPLANATION BY HYDREX MODE”, Dec 2001,
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/DufourJexperiment.pdf
I don't take the Dufour results as necessarily credible without
replication, but I certainly can't discredit them either.
Speaking of which, your comments on my piccies would be welcome, is
the metal-electrolyte interface plausibly modelled at the atomic
level do you think?
Yes. It has been described in great detail by Bockris and Reddy,
*Modern Electrochemistry*, Plenum/Rosetta edition, 1973, ISBN
0-306-25001-2, a two volume paperback set, which includes the
tunneling equations.
I may have not looked hard enough but I couldn't find any realistic
view of the double layer in Google Images, people tend to
schematize the hydrated ions as separate entities all right, but
the metal surface is always shown as an idealized flat plate
whereas in fact its atoms are not smaller than the water molecules
(they are of exactly equal size in the case of Palladium
incidentally, which may be significant)
I don't know if you are aware of it, but I provided at least
approximate geometry figures for various FCC metals at:
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/CCP.pdf
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
