On Sep 9, 2007, at 1:24 PM, Jones Beene wrote:

Horace

> Ah yes, it's that sometimes delusional pre-experiment glow I must be feeling!

Problem is - I don't see this working more robustly than the old Clarendon dry pile without getting down to "nano" tolerances, and possibly to exotic materials.

Here is a calculation using H2 as charge transporter at room temperature, to demonstrate the robust possibilities.

Assumptions:
   mean free path: 8x10^-8 m
   collisions per second per molecule: 10^10/sec
   wall-wall transfers/(second-molecule): 5x10^9
   Density: 9 g/m^3
   Gap width: 10^-7 m
   Gap Area: 1 cm^2 = 10^-4 m^2

Computations:
   Gap volume: (10^-7 m)(10^-4 M^2) = 10^-11 m^3
   Hydrogen mass in gap =  (10^-11 m^3)(9 g/m^3) = 9x10^-11 g
Molecules in gap = (9x10^-11 g)(6.022x10^23 molecules/mole)/(2 g/ mol)
                      = 2.7x10^13 molecules
   Transfers/second = (5x10^9 trans/s-molecules)(2.7x10^13 molecules)
                    = 1.35x10^23 trans/sec
Max amps = (1.35x10^23 electrons/sec)(6.24 electrons/coul) = 2.2x10^4 amps

So the maximum feasible current density is 21 kA per cm^2 of electrode area. If 1 in 21,000 electrode to electrode bounces produces an electron transfer, we have an amp/cm^2 current density, which is just about right for electrolysis. This is huge.

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/



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