Is a balloon expelling gas a suitable analogue?

Harry

On 30/9/2007 3:17 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:

> Yes, much better, thank you. Elastic constriction expulsion. All that is
> needed now is to translate this to eV :-)
> 
> Michel
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Veeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: #CF hypothesis (was Re: surface electron layer catalyzed
> fusion hypothesis)
> 
> 
> If, as you say below, the deuteron is 'expelled' then wouldn't it be more
> consistent to say 'expulsion' instead of 'propulsion'?
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
> On 30/9/2007 1:16 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
> 
>> I guess you mean venturi in relation with the flow restriction.
>> 
>> Following Harry's remark in the spin thread, how about "elastic constriction
>> propulsion"? 
>> 
>> Seriously, anyone got an idea of how much energy this can put into the
>> expelled deuteron or how it could be calculated?
>> 
>> Michel
>> 
>> P.S. Tsss, "Could it get us to Uranus", can't get over this one Terry :-)
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: #CF hypothesis (was Re: surface electron layer
>> catalyzed
>> fusion hypothesis)
>> 
>> 
>> Ha! "sphincter propulsion" Luv it...
>> 
>> ... don't think anyone has evoked that exact wording before, but lest
>> the skeptics out there latch-onto to something derogatory like
>> "toilet-fizzix", can we just call it "venturi propulsion" or something a
>> little less organic?
>> 
>> Jones
>> 
>> Michel Jullian wrote:
>>> (#CF = DIESECF Desorbing-Incident Excess Surface Electron Catalyzed Fusion,
>>> #
>>> being "dièse" in French)
>>> 
>>> As I suggested to someone in a private message a few weeks ago, I think the
>>> desorbing deuteron must have more energy than that due to its free fall in
>>> the electron layer's electric field, in the form of a "sphincter
>>> contraction"
>>> like expulsion energy (sorry for the gruesome image). This would be due to
>>> the elastic nature of the Pd crystal which could be expected to re-contract
>>> locally with the participation of a large number of surface Pd atoms after
>>> the deuteron's passage. This kinetic energy could be a welcome complement to
>>> the electron layer's screening effect.
>>> 
>>> This complementary effect could explain why CF occurs with Pd and D, with Ni
>>> (tighter lattice) and H (protium), but not (or less) e.g. with Pd and H,
>>> because the smaller protium would flow "too easily" (with less sphincter
>>> propulsion) out of the relatively roomy Pd lattice.
>>> 
>>> Hope this makes some sense. Do let me know anyone if this sphincter aspect
>>> of
>>> hydrogen nuclei expulsion has been evoked before and/or quantified.
>>> 
>>> Michel
>>> 
>>> P.S. Of course the whole hypothesis, which I have presented in essentially
>>> classical terms (my apologies to "real" theoreticians for that), will have
>>> to
>>> be translated to quantum physics language and quantified before it can be
>>> considered a proper theory. This will be done IF --big if-- it is confirmed
>>> experimentally, there being obviously little point in theorizing further if
>>> it is proved wrong.
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