wouldn't the ball ultimately loose energy to the lattice as it squirts out?

Harry


On 2/10/2007 8:38 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:

> Mmmm... more like a tennis ball in a tight lattice of basketballs pressed
> against each other, with the elastic constrictions of the lattice (the
> passages between the interstitial sites and ultimately towards the surface)
> smaller than the ball. The ball, pushed from behind by other balls, squirts
> out.
> 
> Michel
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Harry Veeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: #CF hypothesis (was Re: surface electron layer catalyzed
> fusion hypothesis)
> 
> 
> Is a balloon expelling gas a suitable analogue?
> 
> Harry
> 
> On 30/9/2007 3:17 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
> 
>> Yes, much better, thank you. Elastic constriction expulsion. All that is
>> needed now is to translate this to eV :-)
>> 
>> Michel
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Harry Veeder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 10:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: #CF hypothesis (was Re: surface electron layer
>> catalyzed
>> fusion hypothesis)
>> 
>> 
>> If, as you say below, the deuteron is 'expelled' then wouldn't it be more
>> consistent to say 'expulsion' instead of 'propulsion'?
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> 
>> On 30/9/2007 1:16 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
>> 
>>> I guess you mean venturi in relation with the flow restriction.
>>> 
>>> Following Harry's remark in the spin thread, how about "elastic constriction
>>> propulsion"? 
>>> 
>>> Seriously, anyone got an idea of how much energy this can put into the
>>> expelled deuteron or how it could be calculated?
>>> 
>>> Michel
>>> 
>>> P.S. Tsss, "Could it get us to Uranus", can't get over this one Terry :-)
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: #CF hypothesis (was Re: surface electron layer
>>> catalyzed
>>> fusion hypothesis)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ha! "sphincter propulsion" Luv it...
>>> 
>>> ... don't think anyone has evoked that exact wording before, but lest
>>> the skeptics out there latch-onto to something derogatory like
>>> "toilet-fizzix", can we just call it "venturi propulsion" or something a
>>> little less organic?
>>> 
>>> Jones
>>> 
>>> Michel Jullian wrote:
>>>> (#CF = DIESECF Desorbing-Incident Excess Surface Electron Catalyzed Fusion,
>>>> #
>>>> being "dièse" in French)
>>>> 
>>>> As I suggested to someone in a private message a few weeks ago, I think the
>>>> desorbing deuteron must have more energy than that due to its free fall in
>>>> the electron layer's electric field, in the form of a "sphincter
>>>> contraction"
>>>> like expulsion energy (sorry for the gruesome image). This would be due to
>>>> the elastic nature of the Pd crystal which could be expected to re-contract
>>>> locally with the participation of a large number of surface Pd atoms after
>>>> the deuteron's passage. This kinetic energy could be a welcome complement
>>>> to
>>>> the electron layer's screening effect.
>>>> 
>>>> This complementary effect could explain why CF occurs with Pd and D, with
>>>> Ni
>>>> (tighter lattice) and H (protium), but not (or less) e.g. with Pd and H,
>>>> because the smaller protium would flow "too easily" (with less sphincter
>>>> propulsion) out of the relatively roomy Pd lattice.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this makes some sense. Do let me know anyone if this sphincter aspect
>>>> of
>>>> hydrogen nuclei expulsion has been evoked before and/or quantified.
>>>> 
>>>> Michel
>>>> 
>>>> P.S. Of course the whole hypothesis, which I have presented in essentially
>>>> classical terms (my apologies to "real" theoreticians for that), will have
>>>> to
>>>> be translated to quantum physics language and quantified before it can be
>>>> considered a proper theory. This will be done IF --big if-- it is confirmed
>>>> experimentally, there being obviously little point in theorizing further if
>>>> it is proved wrong.
>> 
> 

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