How about "refuse to tolerate all conscious dishonesty in ourselves"?
We all lie to ourselves - mostly unconsciously - about a myriad of things... something I won't get into in detail, but perhaps worthy of some thought. My own view of life, including the LENR fiasco (back to LENR), is that there's nothing worse than someone who is being CONSCIOUSLY dishonest, and who tries to sell this dishonesty to others, as honesty, by whatever means and for whatever reasons. P. ----- Original Message ---- From: William Beaty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2007 9:32:16 AM Subject: Re: [VO]: Tripod base required for LENR On Sat, 6 Oct 2007, R.C.Macaulay wrote: > The first pier must be intellectual honesty, identify the minimum two > other piers. Ah, but the first one has two parts: 1. Refuse to tolerate intellectual dishonesty in yourself. (The mote in your own eye can cause you to mistakenly see large logs in the eyes of others.) 2. Refuse to tolerate intellectual dishonesty in others... but also remain careful to maintain some compassion. Play the role of the tough sympathetic policeman, not the arrogant flamer. The worse sort of "skeptics" are those who direct brutal criticism only at others, not at themselves. ...The chief deficiency I see in the skeptical movement is its polarization: Us vs. Them -- the sense that we have a monopoly on the truth; that those other people who believe in all these stupid doctrines are morons; that if you're sensible, you'll listen to us; and if not, to hell with you. This is nonconstructive. It does not get our message across. It condemns us to permanent minority status. - Carl Sagan (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 425-222-5066 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
