Well I tried to say it in a few different ways. The simple answer is that we have to do battle with those who deliberately (consciously) lie, and furthermore, who deliberately try to convince others that their lies are in fact truths.
This has nothing to do with motes or logs or whatever, which are more to do with seeing one's own inner psychological (in a true sense) faults as opposed to judging others' apparent inner faults. Continuous self-audit - the work of the Observer - can be done continuously in one's own time, without considering so-called others... even while we are considering what is apparently LENR. We've all seen the anti-LENR lies; why waste time agonizing over the perpetrators of these lies? P. ----- Original Message ---- From: R.C.Macaulay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2007 10:23:15 AM Subject: Re: [VO]: Tripod base required for LENR DIV { MARGIN:0px;} Howdy Vorts, So I gather from Philip and Bill that demanding a continious self audit is a prerequisite to characterizing the intellectual integrity of others. This is interesting because, from these comments we discover that we cannot go further until the first pier of the tripod is firmly anchored, and an awareness that we can be both,our own worse enemy as well as remain blind to what can otherwise be progressive steps in the science of LENR. Within the minds of some in this group, an active imagination may be stimulated and a profound idea rise that can become invaluable in this progress. Place thinking caps on and continue. Lets not get past the first pier until it's full implication is understood. Richard

