--- Stephen > I'm sorry; your posts have seemed to me to suggest very strongly that Ron is on the verge of "closing the loop". If that's not suggesting COE violation then I don't understand the term.
Apparently not. > Ron has stated that the power in was insignificant, vis a vis the power out. That seems to me to suggest COE violation as well. Only if you believe that ZPE, neutrino flux, or LENR of some variety, etc are not usable energy sources. > Disconnecting one wire, and observing that the power in must surely be zero, while the LED continues to glow, surely suggests COE violation See above. > Why would you say the "best guess" is that it's anomalous, when the conventional explanations haven't been eliminated? What you mean here is apparently "the conventional explanations haven't been eliminated by me" > Don't be silly and don't extrapolate past what I > said. Then don"t be silly and say things which cannot be so transparently extrapolated to their self-evident level of intent. Jones
