Dear Jones, why not trust Horace and Steven's honesty and EE-competence at 
least as much as Ron's? Honestly they made helpful sensible contributions. 
Besides Ron doesn't even claim to be particularly competent in EE I don't 
think, do you Ron?

Michel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jones Beene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: "Cold" electricity


> --- Stephen
>
>> I'm sorry; your posts have seemed to me to suggest
> very strongly that Ron is on the verge of "closing the
> loop". If that's not suggesting COE  violation then I
> don't understand the term.
>
> Apparently not.
>
>> Ron has stated that the power in was insignificant,
> vis a vis the power out. That seems to me to suggest
> COE violation as well.
>
> Only if you believe that ZPE, neutrino flux, or LENR
> of some variety, etc are not usable energy sources.
>
>> Disconnecting one wire, and observing that the power
> in must surely be zero, while the LED continues to
> glow, surely suggests COE violation
>
> See above.
>
>> Why would you say the "best guess" is that it's
> anomalous, when the conventional explanations haven't
> been eliminated?
>
> What you mean here is apparently "the conventional
> explanations haven't been eliminated by me"
>
>> Don't be silly and don't extrapolate past what I
>> said.
>
> Then don"t be silly and say things which cannot be so
> transparently extrapolated to their self-evident level
> of intent.
>
> Jones
> 


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