I like all that Steven... I do tend to lecture a little (perhaps a lot); just ask my wife...
But it doesn't really matter if nobody is paying attention to the content - which is a human condition; we're too busy paying attention to what's going on inside our minds by way of reaction. C'est la vie. I particularly like what you say about looking back in history. This is absolutely correct. And what seems like a big mistake at any given time, can turn out to have wonderful consequences. Of course we don't know that at the time (just figure out what William the Conquerer was thinking as he was conquering)... We're not really in control of outcomes, although we think we are. See what I mean about my tending to lecture? P. ----- Original Message ---- From: OrionWorks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, June 9, 2008 10:17:31 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oil Gang responds >From Philip (addressed to Edmund Storms): > If you want to have further discussions on this > (or Sai Baba, or Reality), you may want to ask > Steve K for my email address. It's my understanding that when one joins the Vortex group they must assign a personal email address. Anyone on the vortex email list can privately email anyone who joins the group should they chose to carry on private deliberations. (I certainly have on occasion.) It's only when the vortex messages are subsequently posted to the Eskimo web site archive database that individual email addresses are expunged for security reasons. FWIW, in regards to your offer, if you had addressed me in the manner you just addressed Ed I know I would not be inclined to want to continue private discussions. Granted, Ed did ask you point blank to respond to his query, so you were perfectly within your right to express your opinions. Perhaps it's a matter of personal taste, where your comments stuck me more as a form of a lecture than perhaps was your actual intention. I know from personal experience that I learn very little listening to lectures I did not personally sign up for. It seems to me that if we look far enough back in history we would eventually find that no individual, no nation, is free from guilt. It is my hope that if more of us are willing to acknowledge the fact that we are not immune from our sense of outrage, perhaps enough of us can then step back from the automatic impulses to even the score. I'm convinced there are wise individuals on both sides of the fence who understand this. Unfortunately, emotions that evoke a sense of outrage are just too delicious for most of us to let go of for the moment. Outrage becomes an addiction. It demands to be constantly stoked. I have felt the addiction myself. No one is immune. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.Zazzle.com/orionworks

