--- Horace Heffner wrote: > > KM: What if one of Bill Beaty's energy sucking resonant antennas was placed inside this thing, and made to sing at some frequency contained therein by the cube --Kyle
> HH: My ... understanding of the zero point field is that it is a flux of virtual photons, not real photons like those that carry radio waves. Virtual photons carry near field forces.... ...Nicely stated. But it should be added that Bill Beaty's energy sucking resonant antenna concept is a near-field device, but the major problem with Kyle's implementation of that for ZPE seems to be: not the 'virtual' part, but the likelihood that the ZPF operates most energetically at picometer geometries- which is smaller than the normal radius of an atom of a conductor, such as a copper atom. > The effect of a flux of uniformly randomly directed virtual photons with cubic distribution of wavelengths is essentially to make things jiggle. ...Yes - this is the Puthoff argument that replaces GR with a causal theory in which the presence of mass-energy changes the permittivity of space via the "jittering" of charged particles and subsequent interactions between them. The "Polarizable Vacuum" of Wilson was enhanced by Dicke and Puthoff to envision atomic dimensions, including the radius of the electron, as being altered by adjoining matter via the ZPF. Curiously, Randell Mills took this to the next step - the hypothesis that the alteration of the Bohr radius can cohere energy. Horace Heffner's AEH is perhaps a better implementation of that general idea, since ironically, Mills totally and completely missed the possibility that the ZPF is the ultimate source of that excess energy - i.e. the operative modality of excess energy in proton reactions. This goes all the way back to Langmuir's torch. Personally, I think that Langmuir's torch was a modestly OU device (he said as much in private to Bohr) and that it was able to cohere some ZPE energy via the energy-sucking antenna modality mentioned above... i.e. the bare protons using the ZPF to occasionally capture electrons at a lower redundant ground state- which then would release UV on re-expansion. This can be seen as Mills-in-reverse, so to speak, which is also my re-verbalization of interpretation of the AEH (though Horace may disagree with that as being accurate!). > HH: AFAIK the force from the momenta of the ZPF photon flux only manifests as a uniformly randomly directed force at nano levels, and that as the Casimir force. OK- but the Casimir force itself (as a subset of the ZPF) is relatively weak at nano dimensions, but becomes progressively stronger at lesser geometries, no? Once the wavelength gets short enough, then perhaps even 'virtual' photons have an energy bump up to Planck's fifth power relationship (even if it is 'virtual'). > HH: I don't know what might be used as an antenna to couple to it. Well - why not any 'bare' nucleus? As for practicality: It just so happens that the proton is almost a singularity for earthly engineering purposes - in being the only bare nucleus which can be manipulated at relatively low energy. Jones
