There are two versions of the OneCAT motor, air only and what they are calling bi-energy. The later claims 106 mpg and works off compressed air and a little sip of petrol.
http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/-air-fueled-car-coming-by-2008-ar38685.html I don't think they are in production with the bi-energy engine, however. Terry On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Robin > > Your analysis of the operation of the diode seems > accurate. > > The addition of the water mist, and its net energy > balance, is a key point, however which no one can > forecast accurately at this point. This possibility of > it being gainful deserves more attention in a > perfect-world (if we had a national commitment to > get-off of fossil fuels) - i.e. to ascertain whether > or not is ultimately advantageous to use added water > in a compressed-air motor situation. > > If the Graneau conclusion of a COP of ~2 in water-arcs > is correct, whether it comes from hydrinos or > whatever, then that finding makes the applicability of > this technology as an add-on to the air-motor most > interesting - and the curious thing is that a few of > the photos of the Negre engine do show what looks like > spark plugs. > > The blue cabling at the top of this image looks too > flimsy to be for 300 bar air: > > http://www.dhadm.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/windowslivewriterworldsfirstairpoweredcarzeroemissionsbyn-14f6fair-car-engine-06074.jpg > > BTW there are 4 cylinders but they operate in two > pairs and two stages, so only two spark plugs (to the > small pair of cylinders) would be needed, if they are > used at all. > > Spark-plugs are absent from the patent and most other > commentary, so we can assume that Negre has missed > this detail as a possible advantage - if it is indeed > advantageous.... > > Alternatively, it could mean that the engine does use > some gasoline under normal high speed driving - which > has been glossed over in most of the PR accounts. > > [SPIN] They want the motor to appear to the public as > *air only* - and yes - it probably will operate on air > only at low speed, but for use in Europe or the USA- > they should probably just come out and admit that it > needs a tiny amount of gasoline, but gets 250 miles to > the gallon, or whatever it takes for the 25 kW output. > > > As mentioned, no one knows for sure the most critical > details of the Negre air-motor, and the apparent need > for some gasoline appears in the older reports but not > the more recent ones. > > Plus, intensity of visual arcing (from the video) with > or without added water mist - means nothing > scientifically - but gives the impression of far more > energy; which could be illusory. > > Jones > >
