--- Terry: > There are two versions of the OneCAT motor, air only and what they are calling bi-energy. The later claims 106 mpg and works off compressed air and a little sip of petrol.
Makes sense. It is now August and wouldn't we love to have a video of the Tata production line spewing out MiniCATs ? That would make the eyestrain of typing these pieces worthwhile. But the $64 question remains: can the Graneau discharge replace that "little sip of petrol"? Let me try to make that point more emphatically in a different wording. If the Graneau conclusion of a COP=~2 gain in water-arc discharges is correct, whether the gain ultimately comes from hydrinos or whatever, then that finding makes the applicability of said arcing technology - as an add-on to the air-motor - most interesting and unique to that circumstance alone! Well, of course, a full and prestigious Graneau replication by MIT or Cal would be earth-shaking on its own. The fact that the Graneau Journal articles have been out there for 20 years without much interest from others, nor really much of an attempt to debunk either- indicates that some of the parties have not seen an "end-game" which makes it all worthwhile(heretofore). And possibly some have tried to debunk, but could not, and declined to publish because of the backlash from colleagues. That is to say, for Prof. Ivory Towers - he might be reluctantly willing to attempt a faithful replication now that we have $5 gallon diesel fuel ... but even if successful, that 2-1 gain cannot normally be put to good use in automotive, since it is in the form of low-grade heat (very low grade) and Carnot losses would swamp that small gain almost completely away. You really need 6:1 gainfulness in an alternative fuel with a normal mid-temp heat cycle, if that fuel is parasitic to the engine (like a large arc), in order to cover Carnot losses and still have a useful surplus... Normally. Except in the single case of compressed air as the prime fuel. The losses in the "fuel" are already accounted-for in the production (air-compression), and are not large in comparison to the output. Since the Negre motor "exhaust" is itself below ambient, then some of that air energy is actually wasted, BUT -- get this: it does make 100% of Graneau's normally unusable 2:1 gain now fully recoverable! ...using that cold exhaust so long as it does not push the exhaust temp above ~300K ambient. Get it? Plus the shock wave of the arc discharge itself might be synergistic to the primary air explosion. Maybe I am missing something, but it seems like combining Graneau and Negre could a match made in eco-heaven (or OPEC-hell). Jones
