More importantly, winters are getting colder, from more open water and
less ice, causing more reflection back, and summers hotter, melting
the ice, repeating the cycle.

look at summer data, and winter data.  hotter in summer, colder in
winter, than previous.  This is why its called global climate change.
its not JUST warming...

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> thomas malloy wrote:
>
>>> You do realize, I hope, that this has no bearing whatever on the validity
>>> of global warming observations.
>>
>> You do realize, I hope, that this has been an ongoing pattern this year.
>
> An ongoing pattern where? In your state? In North America? This is not the
> worldwide trend. Temperatures in Japan and Europe, for example, remain at
> record highs this year.
>
> Also, trends that last only one year do not count. You have to look for
> broader, longer trends. There have been several cold years in the last few
> decades, but there have been many more hot years and the average is higher
> than previous norms.
>
> Finally, I believe global warming is thought to produce temperature extremes
> including colder than normal temperatures in winter.
>
> - Jed
>
>

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