>From John Berry: > Just an opinion and I could be wrong here, but wasn't grok's attitude the > problem more than politics or religion? > > Now grok is gone then maybe it would be enough to just warn that any > political or religious topic should be moved as soon as the participants > recognize such? Because I suspect that Jed for instance would not have > realized the political quality to his post as it was somewhat on topic and > slight.
John brings up interesting points. I would certainly agree with the conjecture that the recent posting problems were mostly due to "grok" persona baiting rather than the fact that politics and religion were being discussed. For heaven's sake! Religion and politics have been discussed on [Vo] for a very long time, certainly eons before the "grok" persona caught wind of that fact. Granted, it's obvious that certain Vort members don't like the fact that politics and religion are discussed within [Vo], but such complaints, as far as I could tell, have never risen to the point that it became a chronic issue - not until the "grok" persona arrived on the scene. The problem I have with participating in [VoB] is that, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that the "grok" persona is still allowed to wallow there. I unsubscribed from [VoB] precisely because I knew he was still allowed to exist there doing his best to turn the environment into his personal pigsty. If the "grok" persona was removed from [VoB] I know I would be more inclined re-subscribe to [VoB] and post non-scientific subjects there. Unfortunately, [VoB] participants are forced to manually filter out "grok" persona postings, which is impractical and ultimately fails. Inevitably [VoB] participants will respond to "grok" persona bait and there's no practical way to filter out text written in response to "grok" persona bait from other participants. I suspect that is why I have continued to voice a more lenient response to subjects concerning religion and politics within Vortex-l - AS LONG AS SUCH SUBJECTS TO NOT ATTEMPT TO HIJACK the primary purpose for which this list group was created, which is the discussion of science and related free/alternative energy topics & technology. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
