Jones,
Thanks for the support, Can you clear up why my views are so
different regarding vacuum fluctuation wavelengths? I know that 1.7Thz is
thought to be the dividing line where frequency below are thought to be
gravitationally active and I know that these flux must fit in whole number
increments between Casimir plates or they get "up-converted" as shown by the
small flux between the plates vs outside in the Wikipedia description
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
I know the Casimir force is roughly inversely proportional to the cube of
the plate area for non ideal conductors. hCpi^2/240a^4 for ideal conductors
Why was my use of the term vacuum flux so wrong?
Fran
-----Original Message-----
From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges
On Jul 31, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Horace Heffner
>
>> The use of the term vacuum fluctuations instead of zero point
>> field or
> even
> vacuum energy in regards to Casimir forces is just throwing another
> vegetable into the word salad.
>
> It's a tasty treat though. Puthoff is considered to be a great salad
> connoisseur. The last three paragraphs here are instructive
Instructive? Did you actually *read* them. Where in them did you
see vacuum fluctuations mentioned in relation to computing the
Casimir force? The Casimir force is the result of electromagnetic
zero-point energy, not particles like positrons and electrons.
Virtual pair creation is the result of very high energy vacuum
fluctuations, far beyond the wavelength of the virtual photons
involved in the Casimir force. Casimir force calculations are based
on comparatively low energy wave theory, the wave energy and momentum
carried by the zero point field. Perhaps you were confused by the
mention of particles in: "Out of this work emerged the reasons for
such phenomena as the uncertainty principle, the incessant
fluctuation of particle motion, the existence of Van Der Waals forces
even at zero temperature, and so forth, all shown to be due to the
influence of the unceasing activity of the random background
fields." This merely says that the zero point field causes particles
to vibrate. It doesn't say particles are involved in the Casimir
force. The Casimir force is a wave based phenomenon.
>
> http://ldolphin.org/zpe.html
>
> Jones
>
> "It would be just as presumptuous to deny the feasibility of useful
> application as it would be irresponsible to guarantee such
> application."
This is an inane strawman argument. I just put forth in the last day
or so at least 4 methods of using the ZPF for generating either
energy or thrust. Did you read them? Apparently not. I have never
denied the feasible application of vacuum energy nor have I
guaranteed it. I have merely put forth a number of inventions which
might use it, justification for their design, and in some cases
extensive quantification. What a waste of time.
Best regards,
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
