One assumption I haven't bothered to voice, and maybe someone will correct me if wrong, is that the plate spacing TRUMPS any difference induced by the gas motion relative to those plates, In fact I assume after equalization of gas pressure throughout a cavity the normal motion ascribed by gas law provides the motive force for random diffusion while the plate spacing sets up the static "pressure" in all the little nooks and crannies. If Borgoin and Mills' are correct then the "Casimir pressure" allows a change in ground state for monatomic gas. I suspect it also creates a barrier pushing "molecular" gas away from the narrower confines and preventing the translation to fractional quantum states. It is only the monatomic gas atoms that can translate to fractional state atoms that get the opportunity to form fractional state molecules. These fractional state molecules find themselves "trapped" in the confines of a rigid cavity. When they diffuse into a different "pressure" zone the translated molecules feels the vacuum flux trying to vary the fractional state but Casimir force must first build until the orbital bonds are broken. This restores atoms to monatomic energy levels and allows the ground state to translate to whatever fractional state the current zone dictates. The fractional state atoms now reform to the new fractional state molecules and release the energy just provided to the cavity completing 1 cycle of a cascade. Fran
-----Original Message----- From: Jones Beene [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges Fran, Don't let Horace's negativity bother you. He can sound like an ass sometimes and doesn't realize it. I'm sure I can too, come to think of it. He has a competing theory and has made up his mind so don't let that bother you. It is a very fluid situation. There are those who think the Casimir is unrelated to ZPE, that ZPE is unrelated to quantum fluctuations and that the epo field is non-existent and every permutation of those. My advice is to read up on everything Don Hotson has written, and then try to contact him (if he is still alive). Last time I heard from him was over a year ago and he was ill. Actually, he is such a good writer, and poor speaker that everything you need is in his essays. He understands Dirac better than Dirac. If you understand Dirac, you are most of the way there. Jones -----Original Message----- From: Frank [mailto:[email protected]] Jones, Thanks for the support, Can you clear up why my views are so different regarding vacuum fluctuation wavelengths? I know that 1.7Thz is thought to be the dividing line where frequency below are thought to be gravitationally active and I know that these flux must fit in whole number increments between Casimir plates or they get "up-converted" as shown by the small flux between the plates vs outside in the Wikipedia description http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect I know the Casimir force is roughly inversely proportional to the cube of the plate area for non ideal conductors. hCpi^2/240a^4 for ideal conductors Why was my use of the term vacuum flux so wrong? Fran -----Original Message----- From: Horace Heffner [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Vo]:Casimir force at slab edges On Jul 31, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Horace Heffner > >> The use of the term vacuum fluctuations instead of zero point >> field or > even > vacuum energy in regards to Casimir forces is just throwing another > vegetable into the word salad. > > It's a tasty treat though. Puthoff is considered to be a great salad > connoisseur. The last three paragraphs here are instructive Instructive? Did you actually *read* them. Where in them did you see vacuum fluctuations mentioned in relation to computing the Casimir force? The Casimir force is the result of electromagnetic zero-point energy, not particles like positrons and electrons. Virtual pair creation is the result of very high energy vacuum fluctuations, far beyond the wavelength of the virtual photons involved in the Casimir force. Casimir force calculations are based on comparatively low energy wave theory, the wave energy and momentum carried by the zero point field. Perhaps you were confused by the mention of particles in: "Out of this work emerged the reasons for such phenomena as the uncertainty principle, the incessant fluctuation of particle motion, the existence of Van Der Waals forces even at zero temperature, and so forth, all shown to be due to the influence of the unceasing activity of the random background fields." This merely says that the zero point field causes particles to vibrate. It doesn't say particles are involved in the Casimir force. The Casimir force is a wave based phenomenon. > > http://ldolphin.org/zpe.html > > Jones > > "It would be just as presumptuous to deny the feasibility of useful > application as it would be irresponsible to guarantee such > application." This is an inane strawman argument. I just put forth in the last day or so at least 4 methods of using the ZPF for generating either energy or thrust. Did you read them? Apparently not. I have never denied the feasible application of vacuum energy nor have I guaranteed it. I have merely put forth a number of inventions which might use it, justification for their design, and in some cases extensive quantification. What a waste of time. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
