* Happens to be." "He happens to be black." Like it's a fucking
accident, you know. He happens to be black? Yes, he happens to be
black. Ah, yes, yes, yes. He had two black parents? Oh, yes, that's
right, two black parents. And they fucked? Oh, indeed they did. So
where does the surprise part come in? I would think it would be more
unusual if he just "happened" to be Scandinavian!
* No one is "openly" black. Well, maybe James Brown. Or Louis
Farrakhan. Louis Farrakhan is openly black. Colin Powell is not openly
black. Colin Powell is openly white. He just "happens to be" black.
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Kyle Mcallister
<[email protected]> wrote:
> See comments below...
>
>
> --- On Fri, 12/4/09, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> From: Jed Rothwell <[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: [Vo]:OT: Scientists grow pork meat in a laboratory
>> (Follow-up)
>> To: [email protected], [email protected]
>> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 3:02 PM
>> Rick Monteverde wrote:
>>
>> > >> Many right-wing commentators believe the
>> trends are opposite,
>> > >> and that freedom and self determination is
>> decreasing.
>> > >> These people don't know much about history.
>> >
>> > What I wrote was a right-wing comment, precisely
>> because I, as do "these
>> > people", know enough about history . . .
>>
>> Ah, then you know the wrong history, or you misinterpret
>> it, you poor dears.
>
> Jed, as you will recall, I calmed down my condescending attitude, and made a
> public apology to you on this forum for acting like a jerk. Can you please
> stop with this? Comments like this are honestly beneath you. I am sure few
> appreciate it. Your comments regarding the 'climate-gate' thing were well
> balanced and calm, and I liked reading them. Why are you doing this? You are
> not helping your side.
>
>> I wish I could cram you people into a time machine and send
>> you back to the year 1840. I would give you a beard and
>> plunk you down in New England, where people would beat the
>> bejezus out of you for looking different, the way they used
>> to beat up homosexuals when I was young. Or a black person
>> in Georgia.
>
> No one is saying any of those things were good. I think most, if not all of
> us agree, it is good that these things are (mostly) no longer done. That
> said...
>
> Let me tell you something about living here near Buffalo. And about the local
> blacks. You don't need a time machine. Just come up here, being white as you
> apparently are, and walk through the West side or through the Fruit Belt. You
> will DIE purely because you are white. No one will come to protect you. You
> are on your own. If you are ever in this area, please, do not go there.
>
> Up here, not too many weeks ago, a white man was walking with his black
> girlfriend. Nice, lovely-dovey, sugar coated thing, right? We've bridged the
> race gap.
>
> NO. Five blacks jumped and beat the living hell out of the kid because he was
> dating a black girl. He was the evil white man. Was this a hate crime? No.
> Because he was white.
>
> At my shop, I watched a black man (if you can justify calling him a man for
> what he did) slap the living hell out of his white girlfriend, who he had
> sent across the street to get him a soda. Why? Because she didn't bring back
> a receipt. Her nose was bleeding for a worthless scrap of paper, declaring a
> purchase totalling perhaps $1.50.
>
> If the races were reversed, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the other
> destroyers of racial harmony would be here screaming. But alas, it is the
> other way around. There is no one saying anything. If anyone does, your side
> uses the label 'racist.'
>
> If I am a racist for trying to see objectively, based on the data I observe,
> and others observe, then so be it. If I am a racist for judging people on a
> case per case basis, and it just happens to show a trend, then so be it. I
> will proudly wear the title. Scientific observation does not always meet
> favorably with our preconceived notions. But what is perhaps the saddest of
> all is, unlike the perhaps immutable laws of physics, things do not have to
> be this way.
>
> Yes, things are better in some regards. But not in all. In others, they have
> just changed. Technically I am a minority, but I don't flaunt it to everyone
> I run into, nor demand reparations for what was done to my ancestors. I am
> just an American who happens to be overworked and overtaxed. And no matter
> what, apparently incapable of doing right in the eyes of my government,
> whatever side of the political aisle they come from. I suppose if we get off
> of foreign oil, they'll tax me for bankrupting the poor Saudis, and making
> their lives harder, evil American I am.
>
> There is no one to help me. I am the wrong color. Where are you liberal,
> bleeding hearts when I am struggling to keep many lives going, and pushing
> myself closer to death?
>
> Where are you? You do not know who I am. You do not know where I walk. You
> have no right to judge me. You have to place to tell me I am wrong. You have
> not seen what I have seen. You have not felt what I have felt. You have not
> done what I have done, for good or for ill. Yours is the side that says, let
> us not judge. Yet, yours is the side quickest to judge. Live and let live
> should be your side's motto. I have adopted it, to the best of my ability, as
> mine.
>
> Before someone says I am not to be trusted for my observations, believe me,
> there are more that see this day in and day out. Maybe if you don't believe
> what I say, I'll just say, show me your neutrons.
>
> I will finish this by saying, there are plenty of people who happen to be
> black, who I would gladly have as my neighbors. My friend Duane, who is from
> Belize, is one of the coolest people I know. And he agrees with my sentiment.
>
> Just one more thing, apologies to Columbo: Stephen, you stated your feelings
> against laboratory grown meat, as it would lower the price potentially
> further, putting it even more in the price range of the 'poor.' If that was
> not your implication, it certainly seemed that way.
> ...you would prefer the poor continue to scarf $0.99 McDonald's double
> cheeseburgers, instead of potentially eating real meat, without insecticides,
> bovine somatotropin, God knows what antibiotics and such (no need for these
> chemicals in a sterile lab...), and knows what else in it. Why did you not
> think of this before posting this? Here is your actual quote:
>
> "So, pardon me if I don't cheer too loudly for something which may reduce the
> price of too-rich food even farther than its current dirt-cheap level."
>
> People ate real, unadulterated meat long ago, when heart disease rates were
> lower. Ask yourself what would be better. Kids cramming fast food down their
> necks, or eating real meat that NOTHING HAD TO DIE FOR, and which has none of
> the truly dangerous artificial things that we have no evolved protection
> against?
>
> I do not ask for a profound reply. I ask that you do not insult me in
> response. If you do, I will try my best not to respond. Forgive me if I do,
> you all here know, I am a man who has a fierce temper.
>
> Can we please discuss other matters in peace now?
>
> --Kyle
>
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