On 01/24/2010 05:15 AM, Michel Jullian wrote:
> I suggested it could be a heat pump about a week ago, after someone
> (you, I think) said that the orbo generated more heat than its
> electrical energy consumption. If it's a high COP (>2) heat pump it
> can be quite useful for heating purposes, although totally useless for
> electrical power generation as we discussed a few years back ("loop
> closed?" thread).
>
> It being a heat pump would imply that the surrounding air gets cooler
> of course.
Not 'of course'.
No mechanism has been proposed, nor can I imagine one, for making the
surrounding air get cooler as a result of running an Orbo. There is no
point in its cycle where it "steals" energy from the surrounding air.
The claim from Sean is that it violates COE, *not* that it violates the
second law. It's (supposedly) a PPM of the first kind.
> It would also imply that if the device with its surrounding
> air is enclosed in a calorimeter it will not be found to be overunity!
>
> Michel
>
> 2010/1/24 Harry Veeder <[email protected]>:
>> Orbo discussed as a heat pump:
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>> http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=62574&page=1#Item_0
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>> Harry
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