At 02:10 PM 1/24/2010, Jones Beene wrote:
As for the claim of OU heating from an electric motor - which has been
around for years - google "Szabo EBM". Here is a video which makes a clearer
claim for OU than anything coming from Steorn, yet AFIK they have not been
successful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6MDHF39XmU
Holy moly!!!
This claims that once the rotation is set up, the thing generates
power continuously, with no more input power.
It's just as impossible as Orbo, but the claims are far more
striking. The claims and models make Steorn look like a toy
manufacturer, there is explicit claim of calorimetry, self-powered
operation and output, etc.
15 ton generator, the EBM 720.
But when was the film or video made? It seems old, maybe about 2000.
This was a very ambitious and apparently well-funded effort.
From http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Energy_By_Motion_%28EBM%29
Oct. 13, 2006 update -- NOT SELF-RUNNING YET: The company's present
prototypes measure a small degree over unity, according to the
measurement instruments and methods used. However, the extent of
output exceeding input is not enough in the present prototypes to
then cycle back to keep the unit running, as a self-runner. Any
language expressing the self-running capability is extrapolative to
a larger size, not yet built or proven, which allegedly has the
necessary combination to keep the unit running and provide extra
energy for use. (Source: Prof. Szabo, by phone to
<http://peswiki.com/index.php/Congress:Member:Sterling_D._Allan>Sterling
D. Allan.)
Ooops! "Small degree of over unity." How small?
http://www.gammamanager.com/blog.html last entry 2007.
So, they have this 15 ton device shown in film from roughly 2000. In
2006, the claims of self-running are based on "extrapolation." So,
the $1.5 million dollar question (that's the price of the smallest
"commercial unit" which they claim they can build to order, they just
need a year and a half) is, what happens if they don't draw off
energy for use, but just let the thing run self-powered? Is
rotational velocity stable? Or how does it respond to small draws of
energy? What is the evidence for over-unity?
So many questions, and so may years in which to have answered
them.... I certainly got the idea from the 2000 film that this was
ready to go! What that says to me is that they are prepared to hype
what they have. It just makes Steorn look pitiful by comparison.
