On 01/24/2010 12:19 PM, Jones Beene wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen A. Lawrence 
> 
>> Not 'of course'. No mechanism has been proposed, nor can I imagine one,
> for making the surrounding air get cooler as a result of running an Orbo
> 
> 
> Michel is probably referring to some kind of Magnetocaloric effect
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetocaloric_effect

What's magical about the Orbo which would cause this to cool the
surrounding air, when the same thing doesn't happen in any other coil
which has been studied?

As far as I can see from the Wiki page (or "common sense"), air doesn't
get cooled by this mechanism.

Quote:
  > "The magnetocaloric effect is an intrinsic property of a
  >  magnetic solid."

Air is, of course, neither magnetic nor solid.

If this were at work, you'd need to propose that something else, which
was made of a suitable material -- maybe the cores -- was getting cold
as a result.  But that doesn't happen; the cores get warm, not cold.

Sean attributes warming of the coils and cores to Joule heating, not
pumping heat from the air.

As I said, there's been no proposed mechanism which could cool the air
around an Orbo -- and, please note, do it only for Orbos, not for
"normal" electric motors.

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