On 02/01/2010 04:25 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen A. Lawrence > >> That juxtaposition of "fusion", "generate energy", and "rubidium 85" > doesn't sound right. > > That's quite true - including the little problem of rubidium not being a > boson. > > OTOH - many things that don't sound right today are merely awaiting a better > explanation... to wit, when I got the Storms and Scanlan paper a while back, > I was pondering the specific mention of "10 deuterons" as a potentially > active species ... why 10? > > Well, there are a number of implications of this, but given that neon is > 10Ne20, mostly, then one might suspect that if 10 happened to be a special > combination of deuts, then some neon might turn up as ash in experiment ... > hmmm ... > > To make a short story longer, a quick look turns up the curious factoid that > between 1910 and 1930, many experimenters (some rather well respected) > reported the mysterious appearance of hydrogen, helium and neon appearing in > electrical discharge tubes after operation for a while, when none was there > initially. This was long before LENR, but many believed it had something to > do with nitrogen being transmuted somehow. And there are a number of other > mentions of neon in LENR as well, in more recent times. Quite a few, really.
This seems pretty unlikely at first glance. This is a "hot fusion" environment -- exposing loose atoms to a particle beam. And the energy levels seem just a bit too low to get much done that way. Yes, of course Farnrsworth got something like that to work but it took a lot more cleverness than just blasting away with an electron beam. How did they detect the helium and neon? No mass spec back then, right? Spectral emission lines from the tube, or what? Has anyone tried to repro these results in the last few decades? > Now getting 10 deuterons together at one time to fuse into neon in a gas > discharge tube, to the standard thinking of fizzix perfess'nals is beyond > being wrong ... not even wrong ... A 10-way collision -- yeah, I'd say that sounds pretty unlikely. > > ... yet Sir J.J. Thomson, no slouch in the lab and who was awarded the Nobel > Prize in physics and is best known as the discoverer of the electron - > described the production of helium and neon during the bombardment of > various chemicals with these same "cathode rays". But cathode rays are just loose electrons, typically with an energy of a few tens of kev or less. Where do the deuterons come in? > As far as I know this > finding was never retracted. Go figure. > > Jones > > >
