At 02:25 PM 2/1/2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:

On 02/01/2010 01:25 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:

> Unless it's fusion. With a small condensate, and in the BEC state, any
> fusion could generate enough energy to disrupt the condensate,
> immediately. Energetic particles could be created that would, indeed,
> escape the trap, but it might be only one fusion, very difficult to
> detect a single event and distinguish it from background unless the
> experiment was specially set up to do this. The matter in the condensate
> is pure rubidium 85, with the electrons, and BEC fusion may not act in
> the ways that are expected from fusion.

I haven't been following this thread, but...

Rubidium-85 ... FUSING?

Isn't that endothermic?  We way past iron here.

Could be. Any experimental data? Specific to Rubidium-85?

I thought you needed something like a supernova to make reactions of
that sort go.

Uh, there might not be any other way to "make that reaction go." The nucleus would be highly neutron-deficient? Anyone know what it would do?

I certainly don't know!

> A compressed BEC is exploding.

Not from Rb-Rb fusion, I would think!

Okay, another idea?

The reaction might indeed be endothermic but still generate disruptive forces. I'm just trying to think outside the box here, a bit, and my real interest, of course, is in what would happen with deuterium under similar conditions, if this could indeed be done with deuterium.... Might not be possible at all.

I can't assert that some impurity is there. But....

What if in the condensate, there is a rearrangement, and some electrons get absorbed by protons. That would convert the nuclei to a lower atomic number, and the nuclei would then have a positive charge and would repel each other, hence the "explosion." They might also become undetectable.

It wouldn't be fusion, as we ordinarily think of it, but it would be a nuclear reaction. The energy balance I don't care to try to calculate!

And there are dozens of ways for me to be wrong and only a slim chance that my blathering makes any sense at all. Caveat emptor. At least with this discussion! I'm here to learn, mostly, not to impress anyone.


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